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Re: Brand-New Deneb - Trident errors out...
« on: May 20, 2010, 09:06:49 AM »
Quote from: save2600;559646
Excuse me for stating the obvious - but MUI and ANY other necessary programs, should be included with Deneb on a friggin' floppy or two or at the very least OR "hidden" inside the protected RAM on the card itself. DUH. The few people left supporting this platform on the level they do should have realized this loooooong ago. As if AmigaOS users don't have enough problems getting this expensive legacy shit to work on their systems without being forced to jump through cryptic hoops, eventually and accidentally getting this stuff to "almost" meet their expectations, if they're lucky.  


In general, we decided to get rid of disks as they are no way of safely importing data to 20year old machines anymore. You don't get hands on real DD disks, and with "faked" DD disks (namely HD disks) old drives have shown more problems than you want to support.

Seems like you are unhappy. And honestly said, MUI can be expected to be installed as standard nowadays.

And even if it is not - if you simply insert the DENEB, a fail-safe Trident (Zorro II or Zorro III PIO) will automagically start from FlashROM. So you can easily (even if you have a broken disk drive, which is quite common also nowadays due to old hardware, or no disk drive at all) download the MUI archive on some PC and transfer it via USB stick to your Amiga. Of course, if you don't have fat95 installed... but sorry, we cannot provide a solution for every system out there.
Wait... for some reasons fat95 is also included in the FlashROM... seems we have also thought about this issue.

Oh, by the way, you don't need Trident to start that "expensive legacy shit" (nice expression, BTW). Apparently you didn't also take a look into that expensive legacy shit documentation which explains you easily on how to start Poseidon without MUI being installed.

So if you rely on the FlashROM autostarting Poseidon you can also avoid typing in the few lines needed to get Poseidon started in CLI/Shell.

Just to put this right: there *is* everything included in DENEB to get it into operation.

Just shaking head... you could have asked our support easily by mail, but you prefer to rant on that "expensive legacy shit" in a forum first. Not a very constructive way of handling things.

Anyway, if you still have problems with our "expensive legacy shit" products please feel free to contact us by mail, we try to help all customers as good as we can (and up to now, we could solve all problems, either by guiding people, or by releasing free firmware upgrade for our "expensive legacy shit" product to solve bugs in other hardware in our users systems).

Michael
 

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Re: Brand-New Deneb - Trident errors out...
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 09:16:48 AM »
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Alrighty then I will do that....   As soon as I figure out HOW to do that since without the Deneb I can't get to the internet...  Makes downloading a fix somewhat problematic!


Poseidon can be started without MUI by only shell commands (as stated already in a different answer here).
Or you use the FlashROM feature to get a fully running Poseidon without any user install and/or intervention.
The DENEB is built in a way to add working USB support into the Amiga system without installing even a single file.

If you have a support USB ethernet dongle you *can* go online even without MUI (I mentioned the Poseidon AmigaGuide file already?).

BTW, without web brower you cannot download the MUI (or even worse: your web browser may also rely on MUI, or classact which may also be missing on your system). So even if we would include a disk with MUI, you would complain next on the "missing" web browser? Or the "missing" USB ethernet dongle?

Michael