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Re: Pegasos II vs AmigaOne
« on: February 02, 2004, 05:29:45 PM »
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IonDeluxe wrote:
@Darthx

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I'm not sure what lies/rubbish from Genesi that you are refering to?

Well the glaring one is Gary Hare for CEO,


If there were any lies about Hare, they seem to have come from AInc.
Fleecy Moss to be specific.

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but the list is pretty exhaustive dating back some two years ago.Another one is: "we support the community and want OS4 on pegasos" When in actual fact they will do nothing to get OS4 on pegasos and expect AmigaInc\Hyperion to port it for them whilst also thumbing thier nose at the requirements for OS4 on thier machine.


With all due respect, that's ludicrous.
No hardware company, especially companies like Genesi or Apple who also have their own OSes, will want to "have" AmigaOS or anything else that doesn't bring a significant commercial advantage. Especially not if THEY have to pay for it by licensing, bundling and support.

AInc's (or Hyperion's, depending on how you see it) customers, i.e. you and me, want AmigaOS. Hardware companies have nothing to do with AInc or AmigaOS. But WE are not allowed to buy AmigaOS unless we also go along with the charade that there's any reason to only buy our hardware on an "Amiga market".

It's just bizarre to put the blame for the unavailability of AmigaOS for Hardware X (which is sold with Operating System Y) on the obvious and natural reluctance of Hardware Company Z to buy a totally useless license.

They (Genesi) "expect AInc/Hyperion to port AOS4 for them"?
Sweet Jesus! Are Eyetech porting AOS4 to the Terons themselves?
No, WE expect the SOFTWARE PRODUCERS to PRODUCE THE SOFTWARE for US, the SOFTWARE PRODUCERS' CUSTOMERS. Then WE expect the SOFTWARE PRODUCERS TO SELL US THEIR SOFTWARE.
These are the fundamentals.
Anything beyond that, like OEM licensing, bundling and whatnot can be additional options if someone's interested - it simply cannot be made to be the only possible way of ever porting and selling the software. If the software is like AmigaOS, a small niche OS without any hardware "of its own", then it will die if one imposes such unnecessary restrictions on its possible hardware base.

As a side note, we already know of one rather big (at least when compared to Eyetech) American computer dealer who inquired about selling Pegasos hardware under that "Amiga" license, but he stopped getting replies from AInc. That must have been the fault of the hardware producer, right? :P

@ an earlier comment of yours:

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What I dont like is the image they promote as "supporting the Amiga community" when in fact what they are doing is hijacking that said community to support themselves in direct competition to the real amiga solution.


You're not even joking now, are you?
OK, I never got the contract that AInc sent out when they were formed, which we should sign to validate that we and our custom from then on would belong to AInc by default. Could you send me a copy of yours?
:P

"Supporting the Amiga community" can (when applied to commercial companies) be producing and selling stuff that community members need/want. This is what companies like Hyperion and Genesi are doing.



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Oh. The topic was "piece of hardware X vs. piece of hardware Y".
Here's an overview of the two mobos.
[color=0000FF]Maybe it\\\'s still possible to [/color]save AmigaOS [color=0000FF][/size][/color]  :rtfm:......