AMIGAONE.... isn't it an obsolete technology already?

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SamuraiCrow wrote:
For crying out loud it is a developers' prerelease box [...]

That is a patently false statement, and I wish people would stop repeating it. No "AmigaOne" has ever been sold with any "developer hardware", "beta", "pre-release" or similar label. No warnings, caveats or disclaimers have ever been issued or mentioned regarding the quality of or support for the hardware. All Terons that have passed through Eyetech to AmigaOS users have been sold as fully functional-as-advertised, licensed, tested and certified "AmigaOnes", with not only the expected normal minimum legislated consumer protection and warranties but with a supposedly even greater level of protection. All "AmigaOnes" were supposed to be the final hardware that customers were supposed to keep and use with AOS4 once that's released.

The "it's developer hardware" statement was issued retroactively by Eyetech in response to customer complaints about warranty and quality issues (in a "Q&A" session on aw.net, IIRC). It was a lie then, and it's still a lie.

Customers simply do not "develop" hardware that they've already bought (and as for software developers, they're likely to be more affected by faulty hardware than end-users, see e.g. the AOS4 development time wasted on trying to find workarounds for hardware bugs as well as adapting a new type of firmware).

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old_timer wrote:
Keep in mind quality, you can buy a speedy PC for £500 but the quality is rubbish, if you want top quality the same PC is £1000-1500.

You get quality for £500. You might not get excellent performance for e.g. the latest games in high resolutions and max FSAA et c (not because of faults, but because a £500 PC is not top-of-the-line), but that has nothing to do with quality. If the quality is lacking, you are actually covered by a warranty.

The A1 is quality, its not so power hungry as a PC.

You're joking, surely?
And what would power consumption (which doesn't differ significantly between an old G3 and a modern x86) have to do with quality? If you think wattage is a valid measurement for quality, then how would you say that the quality of an IBM POWER5 cluster or a Sony PSP would compare to an "AmigaOne"?

The specs on the A1 is about the same as an Xbox and the XBox has all the latest games!!!!

What the... OK, you're trolling. 1 post and all. I should've figured. Good one, IHBT.

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amipal wrote:
Yes, it is obselete tech. But then it's a hell of a lot faster than anything else out there RESPONSE-wise.

This thread is about the hardware that's sold as "AmigaOnes". It's not about AmigaOS, which is what gives you the quick response compared to e.g. MacOS X which you mentioned.

It's going to be a long ttime until anyone can go out and buy an Amiga,

Don't hold your breath for a new Amiga. The latest model was introduced more than a decade ago, and nobody's planning to make new ones. Third party hardware such as Terons/"AmigaOnes" is the way now.

so accept the fact that you'll need to pay the premium to be at the bleeding edge of Amiga developments.

That unfortunate fact is there due to an IMO retarded (anti-)business decision, not because of any technical reason. The decision was unnecessary and harmful, and hopefully it will be reverted.
If something stupid, unnecessary and easily changeable happens to have been made a current matter of fact, then expect that lots of people who care about it won't simply "accept" it without whingeing and/or trying to change it. Such is life.

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dylansmrjo wrote:

A1 is not obsolete, it is however overpriced based on specs.

In this case, at least, obsolete and overpriced are the same thing.

The Terons could not be produced at a cost that would allow sales at a price that consumers would be prepared to pay for that product. They're low volume items, so today Eyetech might be paying up to, say, $200 per board to the manufacturer. Even if Eyetech lowered their own reseller price to $210, nobody in their right mind would buy this product for that kind of money. I.e. there still wouldn't be any volumes to speak of.

Look at similarly specced (K*133) old PC motherboards. I've seen them on Pricewatch for $10. So old stock is still available, but noone's going to make new ones, because consumers aren't prepared to pay much more than a tenner for them. The technology might still be around, but it's not profitable to produce any more of those products.

They're all obsolete!

The only way to get lower prices is to produce a lot more. That requires quite some investments, which apparently is a major risk for a company like EyeTech.

No, increased production requires increased consumer demand for the product. One can invest all one wants in buying more product from the manufacturer, but that's useless if there's no demand for the product. Poor availability is not the only reason to why people don't want to buy "AmigaOnes".

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dylansmrjo wrote:
@ bloodline:

It's interesting you can get a mobo for 50$ and still get PCI-E.

In Denmark you don't get PCI-E at that price.

Well, EVERYTHING is more expensive around our parts of the world...

That said, here is a PCI-e x16 mobo for the equivalent of £41 (bloodline's talking GBP, not USD).
(I picked itbutikken.dk because I already knew about them since they ship to Sweden too. There could be cheaper alternatives.)