Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?  (Read 58184 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« on: September 29, 2010, 08:20:02 PM »
I am a potential customer. Today I own a SAM400EP Flex and love to use the machine for a lot of my computing needs. There are currently just two things that bug me about it:
  A) I can´t get the audio-In to work.
  B) It is too slow to play video recorded with a FLIP-camera.
I think even the first version of the X1000 will be able to do that and will run everything SAM runs today.

I am saving a little now and maybe in 2011, if I don´t have other important needs at the time, I might get one. I feel it is a far better investment for me than some iPhone/iPad or plasma-TVs or 5.1 audio-systems which some people are buying these days.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 07:43:05 PM »
Quote from: Piru;582126
AmigaOS4 is somewhere around late 90s in those areas. Not even close to what can be expected by average user these days. Workbench is outdated as hell and file exploration with it is quite awful, setting up file shares is extremely painful, there's no flash, browser situation is quite bleak (maybe NetSurf will come to rescue, OWB for OS4 is dead, Timberwolf is useless for any real world usage for now). Email clients are very basic and crude. Preferences are incoherent mess.


Come on. This is not fair and not true. OWB is getting updated every 2 month or so. And Timberwolf will arrive before X1000 hits the shelves. Workbench is a great file manager and neither mac nor PC offer anything better. You might be ignoring that most people on Windows use a norton commander clone? And Preferences are OK if you ignore the skinning and MUI-crap. Windows preferences however have no structure left at all in win7. AmigaOS4 doesn´t look outdated to me and I have been a Mac user for years.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 08:00:20 PM »
Quote from: tone007;582088
I bought this for what an X1000 will cost!

Maybe I should paint it like a boing ball.


Don´t ruin it! It is a great car. However that is precisely the point: You could have bought a more modern car where spare parts are easy to get, but you chose one that hit a soft spot.

The same kind of motivation will drive X1000 customers. There won´t be many.  
MorphOS on Apple Computers may look cool to some. And I won´t talk them out of it. But I owned some Apple PPCs and I can say that I only miss one of them and thats is the original candy colored iMac - for cuteness only. And yes - that keyboard was crap.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 08:05:57 PM »
Quote from: ajlwalker;582189
Windows preferences are ok once you get used to them.

Maybe it is partly my own fault that I have such a hard time. I was getting used to the classic windows list of controls and I haven´t jet figured out how to set Windows 7 to present the same categories. Right now I am always guessing whether to find the mouse speed under Printers & Stuff or Languages & Stuff ... there must be a setting to reverse that strange grouping.

Edit: Oh, It is actually easy .. just found the setting... thanks!
It always helps to talk to somebody.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2010, 08:08:15 PM by lsmart »
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2010, 12:59:07 PM »
Quote from: the_leander;582539
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of what I could get for 2-3k instead of the X1000


For example this: http://store.apple.com/us/...

It certainly has more horsepower than the X1000 but it probably won´t run UAE any better than your other PC.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 08:01:39 AM »
Remind me again. Since many here on this bord bought their Amiga 1200 in the ESCOM days: What did the 1200 cost in 1995 when you would get a Pentium 100MHz with 16MB RAM and huge HD for 900$?
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 08:40:43 AM »
Quote from: Buzzfuzz;582722
I can show you why I would say no ...


Salvador Dali would have loved this one. I prefer straight lines though.

I think both Natami and Minimig are great projects and they will certainly bring the Amiga into the future. They might still be around when most of the classic hardware is broken beyond repair.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 10:19:01 PM »
Quote from: persia;582920
Any chance of a wireless keyboard on the NatAmi?


I guess this thread is as offtopic as it gets now. Or are you seriously comparing Natami to the X1000? Do you think there will be users coming back to the Amiga platform, because there is an 68060-class board on the market?

While I think Natami is great. I am sure it caters to a much different audience.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 05:30:33 AM »
Quote from: persia;582983
Do you seriously think that there will be users coming back to the Amiga platform?  We are all there is and all there likely will be, whatever we do in the Amiga world we need to do for ourselves, not some mythical entry by troops...


I have come back myself. I haven´t done anything on Amigas between 1995 and 2008. Then I tried AROS - got dissapointed there and invested in SAM.
I am not talking about troops, but maybe one or two old veterans. It is the individual that counts.

Quote from: Amiduffer;582969
Unless the X1000 comes with an Adobe style non-linear video editor, no.


There is a video editor in Blender. I haven´t really done anything with it, but it looked rather promising. I got the impression that it was even workable on my SAMs 800MHz CPU, so it should fly on an X1000.
 

Offline lsmart

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2009
  • Posts: 433
    • Show all replies
Re: Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 07:15:55 PM »
Quote from: the_leander;583008

Blender is a 3d rendering package, iirc the editor within it is suited solely for setting up scenes within the 3d environment.


It is definitely much more than this. There are tutorials on how to cut footage using Blender. It is powerful, yet somewhat unintuitive.

Quote from: the_leander;583008

The X1000/SAM doesn't even offer that though. Not because of hardware limitations, but because there simply isn't the software.


Well there already is software to do e-mail, web surfing, irc, 3d rendering & movie editing, photo-management, word processing, retouche, painting, spreadsheets, dtp, games and software development. This is more than the original Amiga had in 1985. It might be enough for some people.

Try that on an iPad!