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Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« on: March 09, 2009, 08:01:55 PM »
Hello.

I  am now accessing site via mobile.  It's all messed up and heavyweght.

Is there ANY chance for getting mobile? It would be just enough to support 176, 240 and 320 resolution.  Since data cost is next to nothing now, many people would be able to access it anywhere.  Also, doesn't seem to be a programming- intensive task.

I wish I could donate this.  How about some distinct fund?
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Re: Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 08:30:52 PM »
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A.org works fine on the iPhone! What mobile device are you using, maybe there is a webkit browser available for it?


I was using HTC S710, but mate, iPhone is the WORST example of a mobile phone, just because it's great and hard to be beaten in many areas.  But it's just a few per cent of mobile share.

I tried the site again on Nokia E65 with WebKit.  The site looks fine but still... you've got a horizontal scroll which is against the mobile way.  Most mobile phones work under 176 or 240, eventually 320 width resolution.  It is just a matter of that width formating.

Try e.g. this link with your  iPhone and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 08:33:48 PM »
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Hopefully it's not Windows Mobile LOL! amiga.org displays fine here on iPhone.


But what if??

BTW I just checked that iPhone is 320 x 480, width is just the same as my HTC while horizontal.  And you guys still call it "fine"?  Oh, maybe with this analog zoom it's faster to browse.  But why zooming?

EDIT* Well, if browsing horizontally with iPhone... cannot be better! I should get myself an iPhone :-(
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Re: Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 09:00:40 PM »
@ Wayne

Thanks for a prompt reply :-)

I meant Xoops plugin of course.  If there is one.

@ AmigaHeretic

Well, you've got a 320 VGA display - 99% mobile users cannot claim that.  Thanks for the advice anyway, I used to use Opera Mini on my Nokia that was rendering everything fine.  I must try this again on this HTC, then I'll try yours.

But I meant something universal, for native browsers.  There are often mCMS plugins, maybe Xoops has one, even beta?
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Re: Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 10:35:26 PM »
I don't know, guys...

I tried this Opera Mini 4.2...  The site loads in 60 secs and is zoomed out.  Same in SkyFire - faster though.  That's the result of using proxy that translates the whole content.  Opera's proxy is {bl**p} to me in last 2-3 years; I stopped using it.

The third one mentioned - Iris, seems better, but doesn't differ from IE actually.  The site still takes around 100KB (which is wasting the memory and CPU), also one needs to navigate horizontally.  Which as stated above, has nothing to do with mobile surfing, it's rather surfing www via mobile browser.  Not the same.

This is sad.
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Re: Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 11:13:33 PM »
@ adolescent

That's my point. You have to render for mobile, that is, match UA with width and output xhtml, that's all.

The question is- where to render. Wheather by server itself, via proxy or at the device. The only sensible solution would be server's, this is why I posted this as a possible  enhancement of the site.

HTML5 will do the job; all mobile browsers would eventually declare their profile, thus being served properly.  So HTML5- compliant webservers will have automatically become CMS systems :-) But I've been hearing of this revolutionaly html improvement for so long that I now consider this a hoax.

To conclude, you either use (basic) mCMS or all you get is partial experience. Altogether with mobile browsing being a partial experience itself, what you get is doubtful. Well except for iPhone owners, right.
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Re: Any chance for mobile.amiga.org??
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 11:27:04 PM »
@ AmigaHeretic

Right, I forgot that in landscape mode I am 320. But still not enough! A.org in IE... Not entirelly messy, I meant horizontal bar and the whole browsing experience as delayed leaping through the page.  Yes this is WM6.0.

I just found an interesting feature- single column view renders proper width, though you have to scroll through the whole left frame... but it's much better, alas slow.  I again I wish there was a m.A.org site.
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