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WHDLoad compatability
« on: February 28, 2009, 02:38:04 AM »
Has anyone compiled any kind of list of WHDLoad games that work with different setups? I'll start adding some of my experiences here if no one has.

For starters, my favorite game, Elite Advanced, worked fine on my A2000 with OS 3.1, but it won't work with OS 3.9 :boohoo:

And no WHDLoad games work on my A2000 without enabling the NOMEMREVERSE option, since I added memory to my GVP 040.

Here's some of the results with my A2000 with OS 3.9 (and the NOMEMREVERSE option enabled);

3D pool - OK
Deluxe Galaga - OK
Lemmings Disk 1 - OK
Wings of Fury - OK
Alien Breed - Hangs up with black screen
Alien Breed II - OK
Alien Breed SE - Hangs with black screen
Zaxon 1mb - Starts and then gives "Illegal Instruction ($10)
Elite Advanced - Garbage graphics (tried all kinds of tool type options)
Frontier - OK
Jimmy White Snooker - OK
Wings - OK

If there is no other list available, I'll update this post with new ones I've tried, and any tool type options I've used sucessfully or unsuccesfully.

I'm guessing that some games just plain worn't work with newer hardware and software, so if you know of any of them please educate me :-D
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 01:44:12 AM »
I was thinking of a list showing what tooltype settings were needed for various hardware configurations and operating systems. So far, about 50-60% of non-AGA games do not work on my A1200 with Apollo 1240, and about 80-90% of AGA games do not work.

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A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2009, 03:03:01 AM »
Some idea of what tooltypes to change for certain errors would be nice. Here's an example below of some of the many errors I get on my A1200 with Apollo 1240 and OS 3.9.

WHDLoad is just dog gone near worthless on my A1200 the way it is.

Bansheee AGA;
Exception "Access Fault" ($7008)
PC = $2EF19A (ExpMem $ 19EA)
Long Write to $2FF0140

Pinball Fantasies AGA:
Black screen of death

Pinball Illusions AGA:
Exception "Access Fault" ($7008)
PC = $2E87FC4 (Task 'exec.library', ExpMem $ 15FC4)
Word Read from $222874C6

Deluxe Galaga AGA:
Exception "Access Fault" ($7008)
PC = $2EF3A02 (ExpMem $ 1A02)
Long Read from $2FF2550

There appear to be several tootypes that could effect things, and the combinations of those tooltypes makes it extremely difficult to figure out if ANY of the combinations will work.

I'm very interested in putting my A1200 in a tower with a Mediator, but it won't be worth shelling out that kind of coin with the dismal results I'm getting with WHDLoad.
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A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 03:13:56 PM »
Where is the MaxTransfer setting changed?
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 09:12:32 PM »
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Flashlab wrote:
Come on, guys. This was on the frontpage for days lately...


I overlooked that link on the front page. I've been preoccupied with other Miggy projects because last week I got OS 3.9, Indivision, and an Apollo 1240, and I've been overwhelmed sorting things out and getting them to work properly.

Does the MaxTransfer come into play if the games are stored on CF in a PCMCIA adapter? Doe the MaxTransfer need to bet set on all partitions, including the boot partition? Do you have to reformat the boot partition and reinstall everything?

I set MaxTransfer for DH2 and reformatted it and copied some games from CF to DH2, and installed WHDLoad 16.9, and I was able to run a couple games that wouldn't run before, but most still will not run.

Is anyone else using an Apollo 1240 with any better success than I am having?
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A1200 - Indivision. Apollo 1240.
A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
A2000HD #2 - 8 meg RAM, Genlock, Tower case
 

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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2009, 11:16:59 PM »
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Flashlab wrote:
@KatManDEW

Those questions are answered in the link I gave you...


I read that. I'm still not sure if MaxTransfer needs to be changed on the boot partition, if the WHDLoad games are on another partition which has had MaxTransfer set correctly. And I'm still unclear about CF cards, especially in a PCMCIA adapter.

But I will go ahead and set MaxTransfer for my boot partiton, and assume that I will need to reformat and reinstall the OS and everything. I'm just not ready to do that yet because I just did it the night before last.

Thanks for the info.
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 01:25:58 AM »
Elite Advanced and Zaxxon both worked on my A2000/GVP040 with OS 3.1, but they don't work with OS 3.9. I haven't tried WHDLoad 16.9 on my A2000 yet. They both work on my A1200 with Apollo 1240.
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A2000HD #2 - 8 meg RAM, Genlock, Tower case
 

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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 01:52:08 AM »
I changed MaxTransfer on my boot partition, and I actually lost a game that worked before I changed it.

So far I haven't found anymore that work than before I changed it.

WHDLoad 16.9 got me a few more, but MaxTransfer doesn't seem to have helped.
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A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
A2000HD #2 - 8 meg RAM, Genlock, Tower case
 

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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 03:36:44 AM »
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-D- wrote:
Elite Advanced doesn't work here on my TekMagic (immediate freeze) nor does Zaxxon. The Alien Breed games seem OK. I've had few issues with WHDLoad on the Apollo, usually the "nocache" option takes care of it.

I think most of the incompatibilities are processor specific rather than accelerator type... the few problematic games on my Apollo 1260 give the exact same symptoms on the TekMagic.

*edit*

Changing the maxtransfer shouldn't mess your partition. If it does, you can always go back to the old value and recover any data.



Please forgive my ignorance, but what's a TekMagic?
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 04:49:47 AM »
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-D- wrote:
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/tekmagic2060



Ohhhhh.... You have an A2000/060. You dirty dawg :-D
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Re: WHDLoad compatability
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 03:03:14 AM »
I formatted DH0 and installed OS 3.9 on a empty hard disk, after setting MaxTransfer to 0x0000FE00. Then I installed the two Boing Bags, WHDLoad 16.9, and DOpus.

Still getting an extremely low success rate running WHDLoad games. Only about 20% of the AGA games work.
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A1200 - Indivision. Apollo 1240.
A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
A2000HD #2 - 8 meg RAM, Genlock, Tower case