Brand-New Deneb - Trident errors out...

[outlawal2]

OK, received my new Deneb today and installed it per the instructions but when I try to run Trident, it errors out saying it can't load mui.library..  This needs mui to run...

What the heck?  Any ideas on how to fix this and why running the entire install as directed does not copy over all necessary files to use the hardware?

Pls advise...

[outlawal2]

Alrighty then I will do that....   As soon as I figure out HOW to do that since without the Deneb I can't get to the internet...  Makes downloading a fix somewhat problematic!

LOL

[outlawal2]

Excuse me for stating the obvious - but MUI and ANY other necessary programs, should be included with Deneb on a friggin' floppy or two or at the very least OR "hidden" inside the protected RAM on the card itself. DUH. The few people left supporting this platform on the level they do should have realized this loooooong ago. As if AmigaOS users don't have enough problems getting this expensive legacy shit to work on their systems without being forced to jump through cryptic hoops, eventually and accidentally getting this stuff to "almost" meet their expectations, if they're lucky.  

MUI? Magic User Interface?? First time I heard of that (early 2000's), I thought WTF? A program that sorta/kinda replaces Amiga GUI/Intuition or whatever - that seemingly does nothing different, takes forever to load and utilizes a squished screenmode. Great. I still don't understand why Trident *needs* this program in order to run - but I'm sure there's a good explanation - there always is.  lol

Good Morning!  Thank you for that as I felt much the same way... (And interestingly enough I too am from Wisconsin!)  I will be tackling this issue later today as I have to borrow a floppy drive from work...

Reading some of the replies, it appears that I SHOULD be able to use a flash drive as well as a network dongle but I did try these and neither one works...  As for the documentation, using the enclosed install routines, docs seem to be strewn across the drive in multiple locations and frankly I didn't take the time to do an exhaustive search for them all yet..  I was hoping for a quick hit fix..   Anyway, I did not mean to cause any issues with my post and I didn't mean any disrespect...  

One thing I will mention though...  Someone mentioned that all installs today will have MUI installed...  Hmmmmm..  Unfortunately my machne is a freshly installed OS where I started with 3.1 and then upgraded to 3.5 and then upgraded to 3.9..   I would assume that everything required would have been installed somewhere along the way.  

It was not and this is the source of the frustration.  No huge deal but something to keep in mind when assuming an individual's configuration...

[outlawal2]

I am a bit frustrated at where this thread has gone...  I was simply asking for some help with an issue that I am having with the Deneb board...  Now 2 pages of responses later there are comments like "Uninformed drivel" and "where have you been under a rock?"

No I haven't been under a rock, I have spent the last 20 years making my living supporting PC's, Servers, MACS and other various equipment.  I asked a simple question on this forum because the folks here are knowledgeable and I have been out of the Amiga scene basically since 1992 or so...  So give me a break here...

Also, someone mentioned that they thought MUI was on the 3.9 CD...  I searched for it on the CD and could not locate it.  (that certainly may be my issue, but the fact remains I can't find it.) I will take a look again this evening...

For those that are attempting to help I really appreciate it!  For the rest that seem bent on pointing out my obvious ignorance...  I am already painfully aware, that is why I am here... So please save the insults as I am not interested...

I ask now for everyone to please take a deep breath and please stop taking offense, and please stop offending...  I am just looking for some guidance here..

Thanks!

[outlawal2]

MUI is not on the AmigaOS 3.9 cdrom. If you are really stuck, I can send you free of any charge, a cdrom with a copy of mui. The only issue is that it will take from 10 to 20 days to arrive to you.
If you have a MAC or a PC near you with a cdwriter, you can even create the cdrom by yourself, and I can help you to get the needed files.

Just let me know!

If you know where I can find MUI online (Other than the aminet link listed) I would appreciate it.  I downloaded the aminet file and unpacked it, burned it to a CD and when I tried to install it errored out with a line 299 error..  I tried unpacking, burning again on a completely different machine and still got the same error..  Sooo, 2 coasters later I am still stuck.. LOL  

I also tried the MUI homepage and nearly all of the links fail, but 2 of them appear to work but then ask for a password..   Grrr...

[outlawal2]

Sorry, I thought it was in the contributions directory like Picasso96.
You can download MUI 3.8 here: http://aminet.net/util/libs/mui38usr.lha

About Deneb install: remember to install fat95, the most important file is "fat95" handler that should be kept in SYS:L/

You could also install 3rd party filesystems from Marek Szyprowski to be able to read NTFS HDs http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/ntfs_0.9

Remember to download Poseidonv4.4 too http://www.platon42.de/files/usb/PoseidonV4.lha

Here you have some extra usb-ethernet drivers for Poseidon (may be outdated by Poseidonv4.4 so unpack them just in case your usb-ethernet adapter is not supported)  http://aminet.net/package/driver/net/rtl8150eth

Here you have Luciferin4.1, handle it with care: http://www.platon42.de/files/usb/Luciferin.lha




PS: Since you are transfering files some 3rd party MUI classes (also known as MCCs) may be handy for some programs like NList, Betterstring, Texteditor... these can be downloaded from Aminet: http://aminet.net/search?query=mcc

IBrowse is one of the best browsers for OS3.x and uses MUI: http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/

Great info THANK YOU!

[outlawal2]

Unpack it on your Amiga, not on your PC.

Tried unpacking on 2 separate PC's.. No dice..  And then burned the file directory to CD and unpacked it on the Amiga itself.  Still failed with the same error in line 299...