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ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« on: July 15, 2010, 10:48:07 PM »
Hi!

I'm currently using ShapeShifter and MacOS7 successfully. I thought I 'd try installing MacOS8 (8.1). However, when booting it on my real Amiga (CSPPC & CVPPC with OS3.9 BoingBag 1-4) it crashes, hangs and then restarts my Amiga, when it's about to load the Finder. It makes no difference if I hold down SHIFT key to skip extensions. Also, the MacOS8 mode is set.

Running MacOS8 with the same settings in ShapeShifter in E-UAE works just fine, but crashes at loading Finder in BasiliskII for MacOS X and Amiga (real and E-UAE).

Any tip on where I should be looking for possible settings changes to make it work on the real Amiga?


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Re: ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 06:56:08 PM »
Thanks for all the replies. I've been able to try some of the suggestions.

Fusion, 3.2, just spend ages trying to load the HD image without getting anywhere. Confusing configuration too.

I've tried installing with no network component that i could chose in the MacOS setup, but wouldn't skiping the extensions be as affective? Though, no luck.

I grabbed the 060 utility from phase5.a1k.org, setting NOSUPERSCALAR. It didn't help, unfortunately.

All rom updates are stored on my DENEB :) Holding down L-mouse button to disable them had no affect. I also tried a clean OS3.1 install and just enough libraries needed to get ShapeShifter going, still no good.

All the various MacOS8.1 installations I've done works well in ShapeShifter/E-UAE, but all fail when loading Finder in BasiliskII (also failing in MacOSX) or ShapeShifter.

I'll just continue with System 7.5.5 for now. Maybe MacOS7.6.1 would work, if only I could find anyone selling it.
 

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Re: ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 07:29:51 PM »
@mpiva

No, not all. However, System 7.5.5 is. http://lowendmac.com/macos.shtml
 

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Re: ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 08:30:37 PM »
@zipper

The MacOS7.6.1 update is from MacOS7.6.0. AFAIK, there is no update from System 7.5.5 to MacOS7.6.0. Maybe to do with the name changing (System to MacOS) to kill off the clones.

@ddniUK

Yes. I stated this in my original post.
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Re: ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 07:15:38 PM »
Been trying a little more to get MacOS 8.1 to work.


@Seiya
I do not have a copy of Oxyron Patcher, but i did try Cyber Patcher. However, the Amiga still reboots upon loading the MacOS Finder.

@stefcep2
Putting "cpu060 NOSUPERSCALAR" at the beginning of startup-sequence didn't help.

Regarding "rose" do you mean "A/ROSE" as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/ROSE ? I couldn't find any files with "rose" nor "prep" in the installation. I tried installing MacOS 8.1 again using custom install to see if I could see any reference to "rose", but I didn't. It may be labeled as something else?

I did try to boot with holding down SHIFT to stop extensions loading without it making  a difference.

@Opus
Yes, MacOS 7.6.1 works just fine, so ill probably leave it there for now.
 

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Re: ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 04:56:32 AM »
If A/ROSE can be disabled by disabling extensions at startup then A/ROSE is not my problem since the ShapeShifter/Amiga still crashes. I can't find A/ROSE in any of my installations. I'll have another look, but again skipping extensions at boot hasn't helped.

For my MacOS7.6.1 installation BasiliskII/MacOSX crashes if I chose a 68040 emulation, but work ok with 68030 without FPU. ShapeShifter/E-UAE works with anything I've fed it.
 

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Re: ShapeShifter and MacOS8
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2010, 08:36:23 AM »
This MacOS 8.1 CD (I do not have a 8.0 CD) gives me the options to install a full clean install of MacOS 8.1 or upgrade.  I chose the clean install. Then a customized install selecting only the  "Mac OS 8.1" option (no Java, internet access, text-to-speach, etc). It gives med no further customize options unlike my MacOS7.6 or MacOS9 install where I had another option for universal install, this mac, and some other third option.

It could be that my media is for a specific Mac? I will need to get back to work to have a closer look at the CD. I might need a different MacOS8 media. A MacOS8.0 version and install the 8.1 upgrade from there.

Edit: Changing the CPU option in E-UAE changed the behavior of the install of MacOS. I'll examine it closer.

Edit: I did get the A/ROSE startup error this time and removed the extension, but still crashes when loading the Finder.
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