Wither Natami?

[cicero790]

bloodline wrote:

cicero790 wrote:

bloodline wrote:

cicero790 wrote:
Thats brilliant news. There could be a NEXT GEN. The possibility is there. Thats great!

Yes, but an OS based on AmigaOS is never going to be as good at using modern hardware as a modern OS design.

I'm not really sure why there is this real need for a "Next Gen" anymore. I think that time has passed. We now need ot focus on what AmigaOS does well.

O.k O.k O.k, But when you say that there is a possibility for a multi core version, thats a Quantum leap in my book.

Far more of a leap in my mind, was the move of AROS from 32bit to 64bit... that required a significant amount of work and bugs are still showing up. AmigaOS was never meant to run on a 64bit system.

But even if AROS can use multiple cores... it simply cannot use multiple cores as efficently as well... any orther OS :-)

"any other OS..." I like that. You are pretty hard on AROS and if I understand you are deeply involved in it so that makes you pretty hard on you self.

There will probably be a way around it. Perhaps something shows up with the singularity project as you said, that could be used in some smart way, the AMIGA way. As an enthusiast that my hope. :-)

[cicero790]

@amigadave

Absolutely ;-)  Who could have imagined fantastic things like MINIMIG and NATAMI then they closed production of the original models. Its a miracle. And AROS is also a miracle IMHO.

[cicero790]

@Bloodline

Let me paint another picture.

Lets say AROS gets browser support.
Then I will replace windows on one the pc's and use it for everyday tasks and in 2008 an AMIGA OS is the main OS.

Lets further more say that the multi processor support gets going and someone at some point thinks its time to get a vmmachine for AROS (We are talking future with a perhaps 24 core CPU ;-) ) Then AROS could snatch all those programs back from windows and you could still use an AMIGA OS the favorite OS.

I mean, for heavy duty tasks you use special machines like at ILM or supercomputers for weather forecasts. Compare one of these systems to a super pc and its cr.p.

I just say that AROS is very usable if you do not have extremely special needs. AROS is great, and you are part of it and you underestimate it's usability.

 :-)

[cicero790]

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Not really sure what you mean, here... you can run AROS in a VM already or uses the Hosted version (which will be faster than an VM).
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Well I meant the other way around. AROS running windows in a box.

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The Amiga space is gone.
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You have really a pitch black view on the state of things. But I am thankful despite this, that you brought AROS to life. Thank you.

[cicero790]

Thank you all involved, non forgotten.

[cicero790]

HI all
I just read up on this monumental thread, tried to understand the implications of the important issues for the future that was discussed. And almost fell of the chair of laughter then the thread went off topic straight into lunar orbit.

I must share this with you. I looked at the SF movie Casshern yesterday. And believe my surprise then there was a character in it named, yes Midori. And listen to this, she said; Nobody is always right, and nobody is always wrong. The answer is co existence, don’t give up, end the war.

I have been involved in long term projects and sometimes you just get tired. Then you have to step away from it and look from above and try to see what we have really got. And from my returning enthusiast perspective I can see a whole lot. There could have been absolutely nothing after the original models. But here we are at 2008 and it still lingers. And I agree with the unwritten future posts in this thread.
If you deeply knowledgeable people could get a normal user perspective on AROS the browser will be a world of difference. Reach out a hand to the normal user that does not know what’s under the hood. Then you get users, then the buzz, then more developers.

If the future goes toward vm machines so programs can be OS independent, then why not using an AMIGA environment that you like to choose those programs from. I will post a question about this in a new thread: VMWARE on AROS, could it be done??