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Re: Roadshow for 68K -Needs your support!
« on: August 24, 2010, 09:44:18 PM »
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and I never got the kind of feedback for it which I would have gotten if Roadshow had been properly released.

Does this mean you didn't get the expected feedback from OS4 Roadshow version ?
 

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Re: Roadshow for 68K -Needs your support!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 11:47:04 PM »
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Also seems a shame to keep re-inventing the wheel

I agree... But seems like people like to do it in this Amiga world: TCP/IP stack ported 3 times, the whole OS rewritten 3 times (AROS, MorphOS, OS4 which had to rewrite lots of parts), applications ported 3 times (MUI/Gadtools, MorphOS/OS4/AROS,...),...

We could have a lot more apps and more modern OS if people were cooperating instead of fighting each other with closed source apps, stupid contracts,... since a decade.
 

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Re: Roadshow for 68K -Needs your support!
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 09:58:31 AM »
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Cooperation only exists if there is a common ground. If the work being done leads to commercial work, you absolutely have to have competition. OK, it's one thing to be competetive and another thing to be snide and aggressive about it.

Indeed. And don't you think AROS, MorphOS and OS4 all have a common ground (that is OS 3.x compatibility plus PowerPC/x86 native as a base) ?
Now I think you have to be competitive before even thinking about having competition... I don't think the current (and past decade) "competition" gave any positive results. Current competition and closed source only made AROS take more time to get where it is. It also means OS4 still doesn't have an USB stack to the level of the "competition"'s one (AROS/MorphOS Poseidon). And so on... Just because they had to keep reinventing the wheel. Reinventing the wheel is useful if your wheel is better, or has a different goal. And I don't think (just an example) rewriting the same PowerPC Radeon drivers (MorphOS/CGX and OS4/P96) has any use but wasting time and resources.
I only see waste of time and resource as a consequence of this competition: I don't see anything positive coming from here... Look: you're not even free to do what you want with the stack *you* wrote. And for what ? Now that MorphOS has its own native stack, what's the point ?
Seems like people are behaving like the big Apple: protecting their stuff,... like if there was a market and millions of people buying their stuff... problem is there are only hundreds (at most) people here. The real target is elsewhere... and surely doesn't care if their CPU is x86 or PowerPC...
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Re: Roadshow for 68K -Needs your support!
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 02:27:40 PM »
@Kolla: Problem is there's no real goal defined for both camps. So development just goes on, people follow a direction, then the other one,... You clearly have your vision, and maybe it's not what the developers have in mind. So when some decision is made you may not agree, so you critize, again, and again, and that's what they dislike. And then you're seen as a "troll".

Problems is communication is needed, but the developers, as you said, are mostly coding for themeselves, for their own pleasure,... following the direction they think is the good one.