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So why the hell do they want all this trivial and superficial rubbish most people lie through their teeth about anyway?
It's mostly not trivial or superficial.

It's virtually all optional, anyway.

During the interview, if they ask about your marital status(for example), and you reply with something like: "Why, is that important?" - or - "What an interesting question, why do you ask?" they are likely to find you intelligent and be more likely to employ you. (Always ask 1 or 2 questions at a job interview BTW)


It's quite understandable that an employer wants to know about whom they are going to be employing - you could be a psychopath, or a thief.

Much of it is only there to get an idea as to how intelligent the person is, and what kind of person they are(are they honest, for example), so that they can feel more comfortable in hiring you.
 

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Re: Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2004, 02:35:17 AM »
It depends on the job. What's the job?

If it's shoving stuff in boxes all day long(in a pre-defined order), they probably want to know they can trust you - you can tell alot about a person at an interview, and usually you particular answers don't matter.


If the job was something that required more skill and intelligence, it's easy to understand how they would want to see how you perform during the interview.

Perhaps the job requires people skills - during the interview, if you can't face up to a panel without shaking and 'umming and arring' ... well, you can probably see why they wouldn't employ you.

I once went for a telemarketing job, for example, that day I was tired, I was nervous, I couldn't think of what to say - even though I was ment to be talking about myself - and it was obvious that I couldn't do the job (however if I had of been feeling better, they would have seen a very different me)

Another example was a job that really required me to be able to socialize - and be honest. I did extremely well at that interiview. I didn't get the job, however I was told over the phone later that day, that I would be put on their list just incase there was anything coming up in the future.

I've done some interviewer skills training, and I realize that there is more to it than just getting all of the write answers filled out in the right boxes.

 

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Re: Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2004, 03:28:08 AM »
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If they ask me things like "If you were a biscuit, what kind would you be?" or any of that meaningless psychobabble, then I'll be screwed,...
The sort of questions you can expect are (EG):

- Why do you wish to work here?
- What do you have to offer us?
- Might you be continueing study in the future?
- What are your strengths? / What are your weaknesses?

They might also like to find out if you would prefer to work elsewhere in the future(next 10 years for example), where are you headed?

I've never been asked any tricky psycho. questions.

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as far as I'm concerned, I cooperate better with people if I have the advantage that they don't know what kind of a person I am.
Which is a problem for them.
 

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Re: Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2004, 05:48:39 AM »
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What do you actually know about someone once you filter out the trendy "spice it up" cliches everyone includes?

 
Speaking of cliches...

Don't say that you're a 'hard worker'. That's WAAAY over used, and an employer will certainly get sick of hearing it!

Use the term 'conciencious' instead.

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Re: Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2004, 09:07:05 AM »
 

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Re: Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2004, 02:57:06 AM »
Dude, I knew a woman who was earning 25K(+super) when she was 18. That was 5 years ago! Imagine what she'd be earning now! :-o
 

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Re: Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2004, 06:54:01 AM »
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Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t
But people aint people. And IMO, that's the whole thing you have to remember here.