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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« on: August 23, 2010, 07:32:54 PM »
Quote from: psxphill;575856
That is pretty weird. I can't see that it's even worth peoples time even thinking about burning roms.


I dunno, buying some spare EPROMs for a couple of dollars and sticking 3.1 onto them and selling them for $20-$30 a set seems like a decent little diversion..
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 08:11:20 PM »
Kickstart 3.1 is the last official version and it is available on chip either legally from various vendors, or you can get a buddy to make you some if you don't care about staying legal.

Custom "3.9" ROMs have been burned incorporating Boing Bag fixes, these are not required to run 3.9 and are merely a nice touch.  If you're skilled enough to make a set or know someone who'll make you one, you're lucky, if not, live with the additional "kick" when you boot up. It's not that bad, really.

Any other customizations to Kickstart really only make sense to hackers messing around with their own systems.
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 08:39:15 PM »
Quote from: kolla;576087
@tone007
OK, we'll let you deal with all the people who mess up their systems trying to set up big bisks with big partitions etc.


I bet most of them would rather have a quick workaround then shell out cash for ROMs!  Heaven forbid they learn how something works!
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 08:51:30 PM »
Quote from: kolla;576091
Plugging in a new set of kickstart ROMs _is_ the quick workaround.


Not if you count shipping time!
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2010, 01:03:45 AM »
Quote from: haywirepc;576117
These rom images SHOULD be posted for free download.

Why?  Someone has legal rights to them.  How about you give me your car for free, I think you should.  You didn't invent or create it, it's certainly not yours.
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 01:55:00 AM »
Quote from: Belial6;576129
Copyright is the law, but to claim that it is morally right is silly.


Morals have no place in the legal system!

psh.
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 12:17:38 PM »
Quote from: runequester;576141
Yes. You are absolutely right. The two cases are completely identical, and your statement is not a strawman at all.


Hurhur, strawman.  I'll make my analogies simpler to understand next time.  Just as haywirepc has a document to prove he owns his 1978 Ford Pinto, someone somewhere has a document saying they own the rights to the Amiga Kickstart.  Whether or not they care to hunt down and sue pirates is another matter.  Leaving up a website offering the software for download is a good way to find out if anyone cares.

Quote from: mongo
Somebody owns the rights. It doesn't matter who it is. What matters is that you don't own the rights. When you can prove that you own the rights, you can distribute the ROM images any way you see fit.


+1
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Offline tone007

Re: Legal issue of Kickstart ROMs
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 12:19:00 AM »
Quote from: haywirepc;576285
Nice Pinto joke. Its interesting that since you disagree with my opinion you have to insult me.


Insulted by the claim that you drive a Pinto? Why? I mean, sure, they're no AMC Pacer, but I think this is a pretty sweet ride. Heck of a lot more interesting than most of the cars on the road today.



Quote from: haywirepc;576285
When i get some extra time, I plan to launch a new website which will host amiga kick roms, amiga os files and amiga abandonware.


Not another one!
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