Sam440 - first impressions

[paolone]

Upon the successful completion of the install the hard disc tried to boot and failed dumping me to a uboot prompt after about an hour of swearing and messing about I realised that this was caused by a PEBCAK error (Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard). I had forgotten to check the bootable box on DH0. DOH!!!

Hi, I'm using AmigaOS 4.1 on my SAM too, and I had similar installation problems. However, I don't think this is a "PEBCAK" issue, 'cos it's quite disturbing that a system installer, in year 2008, forgets to set the system partition as "bootable": yes, it's the installer that should do this, not the user.

For istance, I had not your exact problem but I got stuck at reboot many times, because I didn't read the manual (ehm) and I didn't place the bootblock at the beginning of the drive. Another time, however, I think that in yera 2008 it should be installer's duty, not user's.

In a nutshell: this is neither MS/DOS nor Linux, it's AmigaOS. User should be able to install it flawlessly, close the installer and reboot the system without any glitch. I can do this even with AROS, why the costy AmigaOS 4.1 doesn't allow this?

[paolone]

1. mhhh! where the fun then? would you prefer an "idiot proof" system ala windows? no thanks

2. We lack the thousands betatesters "other" systems have. Theres always (and it will for sure) something overlooked. Live with it and above all, enjoy it!

1. The fun should be in the programs you use ON the operating system, not trying to figure out how the OS iteself should be installed. Frankly spealking, when AmigaOS 2.x came out, standard on the PCs were Windows 3.1 ugly things, with stupid solutions like the "Program manager" (aaargh), the program groups and similar silliness. On the Amiga side we always enjoyed our OS and told PC owners that it was really easier to install, use and manage. So now, what are you doing exactly? Are you enjoying a silly complication that simply should not exist anymore? It never existed, it should not be here today.

2. Nope. Criticism is required in order to evolve. You'd never "live happy with it", whatever that 'it' is. I can use AmigaOS, Linux, Windows, AROS or whatsoever and be happy, but I must point out any issue I find, if I can.

[paolone]

taunusand wrote:

1. I look forward to ovn my own SAM, if this is the worst issue with the OS, then I can live with it!

2. "Criticism is required in order to evolve." Of course, I agree, you are right :bow: :-)

1. It's not the worst issue with the OS, either. However I won't be more specific, because I'm known as an AROS user/evangelist among the community, and I don't want that someone would take my words as an exhibit of bad attitude with AmigaOS 4.x, that's not the case. I think the web will be plenty of good reviews (good reviews == they will say the truth regardless of fanboyism) that will depict pros and cons of AmigaOS 4.1.

2. Oh, well, thanks.