AROS vs traditional Amiga vs SAM

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@ Dammy:

DOnt wish to get flamed, but I cleared this topic with you a few weks ago also, that for me, SAM440ep with os4.1 is ads AMIGA computer as it gets for me. It is the first time I have finally been able to have a modern Amiga system.

However, if you want to call it linux in a box, mac system, aros system, even zeta system, then go for it, I dont care, IN my heart, and many who have bought the SAM440EP to run OS4.1 it is and will remain the newest edition to the AMIGA system and AMIGA OS range.

NOW, Go and support your MACS. TO me, every line and everything you say suggests to me you have MAC in your heart. THats all fine and good, My colleague programmer has mac and amiga, but atleast he admits that sam440ep can be considered a new amiga system.

Cheers.

P.S. HANS, Im with you on this one. Im sure Andeda and others owning a sam with os4.1 may agree with your open minded outlook on the situation of how SAM is being marketed as a new AMIGA board or system.

CHeers again.

DAMMY: Im cool with you, just letting you know, we all are allowed to have different viewpoints, but reality remains, it is being marketed as an amiga system or package.

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@ Persia:

I have only used my SAM440EP with Amiga OS4.1 since it has arrived. I havent touched windows, I have had absolutely no need to. And I can not see much of a reason for this changing, unless Elder scrolls V or Gothic IV come out.

But big deal, a couple of games.(that I happen to love the series of)

I had a dvd running at fullscreen with no problems and n slowness. I have had 6 gmes running at once, with the sounds all running simultaneously.

Again, I have not yet experience and real or proper bugs like the others have with their screens and so forth, but ten, I have trned off the compositing 3d engine for the opacity like screens in favor of functionality. Once I had turned this off, everything worked beautifully.

Also to note, If I use x86 hardware again in home time, after hous from work, it ill be running ubuntu or AROS.

Another note here, at first I was concerned about the price of the sam, etc, etc, but now, I havent looked back and am so happy I went ahead with the purchase.

Not to mention, I am a first real time user of Amiga OS, as the last OS I had touched reguarly was when I was a kid 1.3

Add to this thatI am greatful that my farther had a simplistic view on life and always black and white, as he has really managed to wear off enough on me. I am only glad that when in my mid teens onwards, I had stopped using a1000 for homework, in favour of warcraft 2 and the like, that he kept it.

I will not sell that machine now, it is like a constant reminder of him, and the good times we had on it before his deathbed. I remeber as a kid, how he hated windows, for its stupidity of trying to make everything coplicated, in the sense of, the OS was controlling you, whereby he prefered the Amiga OS, as you were controlling the OS.

Anyway, hooked in my hub recently, with webcam, usb printer (epson), rubber flexo keyboard, and left one spare for other stuff.

Also I like the fact that I can rename my USB stick that I plug into the amiga, for fun, I called it dickhead, restarted the machine, and sure enough, when I plugged it back into the usb port, my amiga remebered it.

Since ive changed it back to Astone.

Cheers.

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@ Piru;

I know one can do it on other platforms, but, is it a simple case of right clicking, renaming the volume.(read next sentence first)

then when you restart the computer, does that OS remember what you had named that usb Stick volume??

either way, I found it easier to do on my amiga (Piru must be MR.Mac man.) (smiles) which is fine by me Mac boy, I only have something against windows.

Anyway, I am happy to say, I prefer using Amiga OS4.1, and I am in less stress than when I was using windows, the start up times are cut down by 70% atleast at cold boot, and warm booting is further cut down.

there are many other things I prefer versus MS and other OS's.

If I do use another os, it is on my spare setup x86 with AROS or Ubuntu.

AS for my xp, havent touched it, and only plan to emulate windows momentarily to retrieve some data from that piece of {bleep} OS(IMHO). Only thing that may get me on it, is the emulation of AmiKit, I liked Magellan and all those adf's I d/l'ed (alien breed 2 : the killing grounds "LOVE IT")

Luckily, I only have to use it at work these days, and every day for the 5 days I use it, it pisses me off contantly, at how slow my 3ghz machine is with 1.5 gig ram, just to load up in the mornings, not to mention during working on it, be it pdfs or CAD.(bloody programming of the MS OS if you ask me, that MS OS would have to be reprogrammed entirely to be any good in my eyes)

Honestly, after using a friends mac semi reguarly, Id rather a mac on x86 than piece of {bleep} windows. But they both have downsides, macs can also be slow, due to them saving a file or executable like photoshop after opening, so it opens faster the next time you open it, WTF, who thought of that.

Anyway, Your alright Piru, Ive grown to like your humour and sarcasm bull. haha.

cheers.

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Actually I noticed a few differences right away. My loading time to get into xp versus amiga are substantially reduced, so mcuh though, I dont even have time to take off a t-shirt and amiga is already loaded.
With my xp it was like I could change my whole outfit.

Another difference, would be the fact that it actually loads directly amiga, versus, having to see that pittyful windows loading sequence, then running the emulate ontop of windows, hence, IT ISNT AN AMIGA.

ANother note here, I had nothing but problems when I wanted to run simple things like IBrowse, Sound, Playing a dvd, couldnt burn correctly, all this from emulation.

NOW, with my SAM440EP and Amiga os4.1, I can burn just as fast as easy as windows, I can watch dvd's with no frame skipping, and, I am not running ontop of another platform.

to keep it short, IT ALL WORKS, versus, EMulation whereby one is never sure if one can even use it to look at the web, as it might decide to have a fit.

BEST TO NOTE, I dont have to wait for my machine to shut down, my shutdown sequence is quick, it involves pushing the off button when I want to stop using it. UNlike xp, whereby your waiting another 30 seconds to a minute for it to turn off, what a load of {bleep} OS. XP controls the user, whereby with an Amiga OS, the user controls the OS.

There, DONE. Goodbye, and no more arguing over this shet, you either have a sam440ep running AMiga on it, then you can make bold comments, or you dont, and for those that dont, (EDIT) SHUT (*.*.) Up! and stop winging about it.
Sorry had to edit that, didnt want to sound too negative.

Cheers

And hopefully many happy amiga times lie ahead for all users, be it classic, or modern hardware.

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@ Bloodine:
@ Dammy:

Can you guys please tell me what Amiga's you guys own, Im just curious?
I have noticed that the users on any of the forums that are really proud to be amiga users, have a listing as their signature. So, Does that mean you guys, and people like you, only use your amigas once a week? once a month?

I could be wrong here, but, it is something that I have been noticing.

Cheers.
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@ Paolone:

It seems like you have simply gotton used to the sheepish off style system.

Personally what you say is rubbish, using and clicking with the mouse already wastes seconds versus push of off Button.

Another note, Have you considered the fact that maybe we should start having tv systems operating the same way, whereby you have to go into a menu first to turn it off??

Wouldnt that be a fantastical idea (NOT)

Anyway, clearly some of you on here have no appreciation of the simplicity, and actually want extra steps to do things.

@ Dr Hirudo:
I agree with you, the new Amiga OS4.1 and sam440ep are a nice little match make, I still havent found a need to even turn on my xp machine, and its been over 2 weeks now since I recieved the sam440ep amiga system.

THAT, just prooves that even a new found user, like myself, with lack of knowledge of how to operate an Amiga OS can easily adjust themselves to an OS that lets the user control the OS.

@ All,

I still am happy I made the decision to buy an Amiga system versus the other OS's. BUt I will say, I am happy to use Ubuntu or Debian alongside the Amiga OS.

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@ Tired Of Life:

I can not remember bringing you into this conversation??
Nor do I remeber even being against anything you have said in the past??

That aside, I am happy to hear you do that, I also like stating when asked or in a situation, that I use Amiga.

I have even placed it in my cv, alongsite computer literate, like this:

COmputer Literate : Amiga, Mac and PC



Cheers.

And, Calm down will you.

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@ all and Piru:

My shutdown doesnt take 4 seconds, it is INSTANT.

But then, unlike you old classic amiga's, my button is right infront of me, in a Nexus case.

Then theres the fact that it literally only takes me a second.

My xp, and many other friends systems with xp, takes atleast 5 seconds to shutdown, or in many instances, a lot longer, right upto 30 seconds. WTF.

Another note, I have no hassle wqith using a mouse in certain circumstances, but it is clear to me, that some of you simply have placed your computers in places whereby you wouldnt even use a usb port??

I have to have my desktop at arms length away, as I am always using the usb sticks, cameras, etc, etc.

So, yeah, for me, it is literally 1 second, I timed it the other night, it is INSTANT.

Like a tv, I dont have to wait for it to shutdown, nor when I walk away, is it still shutting down, it is INSTANT.

Let me repeat it for you not so cleue people, INTANT equals STRAIGHT AWAY, which is equal to RIGHT AWAY. No waiting.

Cheers.

Back on topic, I personally have another computer setup with AROS and LINUX. Soon I will have a Pegasos System also, running MorphOS. This is where the fun will start next year in our Development for AOS and MOS.

Cheers.

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@ Zylesea:

Excuse me, but for those of us that do not deal with the PPC mac hardware, what is an EEE 900A, and specs of it?

Also, has MorphOS been ported yet to any MAC hardware and what type of MAC PPC type hardware has it been ported to, if at all yet?? If so, can you please write a list of hardware here?

Thank you.

P.S. I am most likely retireving a peg to run MorphOS this thrusday, that will mean I will then be running, Amiga OS4.1, MorphOS, and ubuntu for now, later Debian, duel boot systems. Cheers.

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@ D:

OK, well, in all honesty, my system always took between 20 seconds onwards to turn off. Most of my friends have xperienced roughly the same.

The turn on time also takes anywhere from 1 minute to 7 minutes if computer is on a network.

SO

I did not want to get flamed, and that is why I was being nice, with the 5 second {bleep}, which is totally untrue for a turn off time of the xp type OS.

BUt, you knew that

Anyway, I just know, I find it less hassle late at night, I feel like I can turn it off at anytime. And er, when my system actually crashed/Froze, os4.1 that is, it also recovered my email I had written, so, what you say is not entirely true, about the autosaving.

mmmmmm, Maybe its true for older Amiga OS's.

Overal, I am very happy to say, have not had the need at all to even use windows anymore at home. And that has meant a more stress free life for me. as I am on my computer every night after work.

Cheers.

Hahahahaha, its kind of amusing, all this off switching talk, and yet the topic is actually meant to be comparing not XP, but AROS, Traditional and SAM, its not evenmeant to be comparing emulated. hahaha.

Have a good one people.  :-D