Porting Games To Amiga os4/4.1 platforms

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@ All:

Ok, wanted everybody who would be interested in seeing new game development, as well as porting existing games to the amiga os4 range(inc. os4.1) and ppc mobo's (or even the older ones, blizz and cyber ppc's possibly) to basically give a yes answer.

The more interest here the better the chance for development to proceed from various developers.

Also, those that give a yes answer, can also perhaps request a game, type of game, eg. strategy, fps, etc, or give a reasoning if they wish.

Any who do not wish to see potential new companies develop games and software for our beloved platform, dont bother responding.

All aros, morphos and amiga related os's can also respond with a yes and why, as there a development companies unsure if they should give it a risk, and if I can show them a HUGE positive response thread(or multiple if others start similar threads in other forums) than we have some ground to stand on, and the possible developers that are thinking about doing a game or software for the platform, will then see the interest there is among us, and hence, will more confidentally be ready to develop.

Thank you very kindly in advance for participating in potentially an important thread.

Kind Regards

Gebrochen

 8-)

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@ GazGod:

Because when I asked various development companies, thier reply was more or less:
We would consider porting or & developing for the Amiga platform if there were people interested in using the platform, but, due to no sign of interest from the Amiga communities there seems no demand for it.

I have an Amiga club member from our club that is a programmer yes. I myself will in future start designing graphical content in Imagine software & photogenics.


@ Mikrucio:
Well a solid platform may only happen over time if the left over amiga community support Acube and Hyperion.
Either that or go the other way and support MorphOS, the choice is your alone. If there isnt enough interest in Hardware, even if it is PPC at the moment, then there will be the same effect of perhaps upcoming companies like Acube or Hyperion who may have thought about starting development, but simply discouraged at the lack of support given to the current development companies.

And yes, perhaps in future Hyperion would be able to financially support developing the Amiga OS for x86 hardware, as well as existing PPC.

After talk with Hyperion, the Discreet FX idea of porting os4 onto PS3 seems void at the moment, sorry guys.

@ALL:

Please refrain yourselves from giving hassle like comments like the two above amiga enthusiasts, while answering ofcourse or yes you would like to see new games and software. This is purely meant to be for the possible development companies I've contacted to see that there is still enough interest out there for them to actually still consider development for the Amiga platform.

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@Piru, Kin-Hell, FlashLAB:

Flashlab mainly,

Unrealistic expectations, where have you been, your the same guy that would've said all this time,(until recently), forget it, new hardware will never come out, well, you were wrong!!

I believe the same with other areas of development, it will come about slowly again, if enough people decide to buy the sam to use amiga os4 along side with linux/AROS/ or even zeta.

So how about you do us a favour, and stop your crap, and let the rest of us who've bought a sam with os4.1 get on with atleast trying to get interest back into our platform??

(667mhz with os4.1, nexus case, already got plans to custom modify the nexus, and have a giant boing ball neon lit on the side)

Its funny, when I posted on the new hardware thread, about sam, I didnt see none of you comment there, so, how about you do the same here(unless its positive), and let the rest of us who want to try and build up the platform again, do so.

THis is why I like M Schulz, he is trying with the AROS team to have it fully functional standalone on x86, but then, let me geuss, you guys also have negative things to say about it right. Why not except that our user base is a niche, and to port things or get things happening will take time because of it.

Also to note, OK, you may be right, but then, what if your wrong, like you were with the new hardware, what if many developers are turned away because they assume most of us are no longer interested in new development in the game and software fields, as everytime they come onto an amiga forum, they hear you guys being negative, and hence, it turns them away maybe??

Negativity is the biggest killer guys, but then, those few that still have hope and positivity, remain true, and continue to build for Amiga platform future.
AROS, MorphOS, Hyperion, Acube, etc.

Now please, dont reply to this reply, and reply to the topic thread, do we want to see new developers emerge for GAMES and SOFTWARE

Simple YES or NO will do. and reasoning if so desired.


 :-D

And no, I have not as yet emailed developer companies about this, there is only a point if I have something to show for it. But after talking with Hyperion, about the ps3 porting that discreet fx have on their website, I also found out other things, such as why many developers get turned away, from the same people that made os4.1 happen.

SO, stop assuming things.

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@ Skurk:
no I wouldnt either, but I would expect that from the low income they retrieve from the user base, they would be looking at making better hardware in future.

As for AROS, if it had browser support, im sure many of us would use this instead anyway.

As for your comment, perhaps you would buy a sam440ep, if it had a similar game to doom 3, similar game to supreme commander, etc, with far less cpu ower needed, after all, I played an 1997 game on my a1000 that isnt even meant to work on it, this is what amiga always had, good gaphics, low ram usage, the same type of game on a pc, much higher demand on ram back then, with {bleep}ter graphics, different architecure granted.(until the PCI cards became cheaper)

anyway, {bleep} aside

what if something like shogo 3 was available, or imagine 8 software, this can only happen if the user base is willing to sacrificein the right places, problem is, there are too many amig type os or emulated s options now, that seperates the amiga grup as a whole, this and many other things yes.

I understand peoples frustration, but point stil remains, any who are buyng classical hardware for 1400 dollars/smacks to run os4.0, would surely find it cheaper to buy a sam with os4.1 for around 700 or so dllars, and to be able to have the advantage to develop, but thats the problem, most amiga users are sitting on their arse, complaining about lack of development, and yet, often the case im sure, these same people, have desiging experience, or coding experience, far beyond the users that actually would love to get in there, and rip it up.
(Mmmm, many would be complaining from a mac/xppc/linux type os right now also - haha)

Anyway, as for kin hell:

Your head is still in the sand is it, if it is such a dead horse, why did hyperion and Acube even bother trying to help out our community by bringing new hardware onto the plate?
OK, one needs to compare it to amiga hardware here, to see the advantages, negativity granted there but, positive wise, atleast they are doing something,rather than just complaining on a simple yes no survey, for statistical information, such as this one.

It would help some of our club members with their ideas, to bring them forward, if they have statistics(of any type) backing them, but, if it continues like this in this thread, Ill have wayne shut it down.

Its amusing, such an intelligent user group Im sure, but cant even keep it to a "yes I would be interested" approach for a simple survey type thread,  so, perhaps I was dismayed at the intelligence of simple tasks, whereas for difficult solvng problem tasks on our classical machines, you all have it people I know, I read it and see it everywhere.

night.

Take it easy guys,

@Wayne:
Is there a way to delete an old thread, such as the shogo one I had created a while back?? Perhaps you may find 1 minute of time to do so?

[Gebrochen]

OK, this is entertaining, one guy assumes that I am someone else and then everybody jumps with him??
Just goes to show that if one jumps off the clff, the rest will follow, typical of this user group I suppose.

Anyway, this stark creature aside,

I was simply trying to work out how may people would be interested, simple yes or no answer, as to work out if it is even worth developing anything for the platform.

But after much dismay at first, atleast one person has given what he thinks would be a fair figure, and if that figure is 150, than thats better than my figure I had in my head.

So, as for the other development companies, well, they are wlling to give me and our crew some advice during our development processes, now, please bear in mind, our programmer might be good at coding, but he hasnt, nor have I, ever attempted on doing a 3d rendered type game, which basically means this will take some time.(and at the moment,everything is only in idea form anyway, nothings left the ground yet, and after this, it may be longer to leave the ground)

As for this 3d engine,I never said what type of development by memory within the whole forum(again, someone assumes something, and the sheep follow methusa or whatever)
On top of that, it clearly stated if any would be interested in seeing new development, not to debate it, like this has gotten way out of hand, I had simple expectations here, thinking, this'll be easy, everyone will most likely just say yes, ofcourse, why not, etc, instead, it seems I was wrong, and the whole amiga user group at A.org wish to debate every little piece of equipment, rather than just telling me some statistics.

SO

For the guy that mentioned a statistic,and the people that took it seriously and said yes, or they would be interested, thankyou, as for the rest of you, I can only wonder if your responses wouldve been the same if Hyperion posted this themselves.

Cheers.

@WAYNE:
Hey wayne, Dont know how to delete this thread, and was hoping you could do it for me, as I no longer need any further information, Ive got what I came for, which was an indication of if anyone is interested, and it seems, not many are interested to begin with, instead they rather argue or debate something as simple as this, that only required a yes no answer.

@ All:

Thank you for giving me an insight of how uninterested and biased, and negative the amiga user group nowadays is, If I got anything out of this, it is the fact that atleast someone told me a nice figure of 150, which is small, but then, one has to start somewhere, weather it be development, or creating a traffic engineering design fle in CAD for construction to happen.

Once again, sincere thank you.

P.S. My colleague and I are still considering in creating atleast one game, so, Im sure he or I will post an update next year if we went ahead with our ideas, as it seems this year is already over, and by the time we get certain things organised.... you get the picture.


 :cheers:

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@ Persia:

thats right, not everybody is in it for the money.

My colleague and I, are simply just wanting to try something different after hours, and as I am waiting for my SAM440ep with OS4.1 to arrive, we have already been looking at his A1200 project, although he always gets distracted on his a4000, again so tonight, but thats another matter.

As for my previous statement above, again, that was reality.

So why am I writing, out of courtesy to you persia, as what you just said I totally agree with, as this is one of my many hobbies.

Furthermore, I used to do a lot in the designing field, and my colleague used to, and still does do many things in c++, so it simply came about recently, that maybe we should try to create some games for the amiga.

It could have just as easily been for the mac platform, as my colleague also likes using this, but in the end he also likes amiga, and would like to see something new for it.

actually seriousy, i am almost invaded by linux and mac users at the moment with most of my friends, hahaha.

OK then, this is my last posting, as I am expecting WAYNE will delete this thread.
I asked for it to be deleted, but I think he wil see good reason to why i asked for it to be deleted, theres is no point in forcing a horse to drink water.

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Have to post to this guy, he is like an instigator or something?? constantly looking to pick on any new guys??

@ GazGod:

Dont want to fight.

But, I never mentioned anything about A.inc in this thread, and as far as I can remeber, cant think of even mentioning during any of my discussions, be it my threads or elsewhere??

Also, Im sure you wouldve noticed me mentioning acube and Hyperion, mmmm, let see, maybe its got to do with my hardware I ordered?

Nothing matters anymore, I feel this was a total waste of time, to come on here, and to try and do a survey of interest