The Red One X vs x1000

[wawrzon]

Since PPC Amiga do have an 680x0 emulator and that audio can be redirected to AHI through a patch isn't PPC Amiga1 able to run games that are system friendly?

Kamelito

if these are rtg games then perhaps, but which one are these? otherwise an ng system (amigaone or whatever is it called) needs to emulate an amiga just as pc does. and according to reports the ng systems in contrary to windows pc are too week to guarantee full speed emulation, mostly because 68k jit for ppc isnt finished.

[wawrzon]

Warp3D Driver: more exciting news in Q2/2015

we are hearing that warp3d is around the corner every half a year since few years, last time from amiwest 2014, which has been followed with a complete silence on the subject just as before.

There are several other announcements to come soon which will benefit the X1000.

announcement of a soon announcement is another example of what is customary to be issued, and hardly ever to prove if it ever has been delivered, since the content of announced announcement content might have been announcement of an another announcement.

[wawrzon]

Wow, thanks for all the feedback. Yeah, it's a bit confusing about the emulation part. If the x1000 and other AmigaOne's have to emulate all the classic software, then the only thing left is a ppc linux box? So, why have it run on PPC if it can't run any of the old amiga software natively? Is the integration of the emulation into os4.1 better than what's currently avail on windows and mac? Just curious. Probably talked to death on the forums, but I do want to get a machine where I can support the amiga cause and that bit of nostalgia is what's driving me to consider a machine and not winuae. Does that make sense?

morphos and os4 are able to run a choice of system conform amiga software via 68k cpu emulation as if it would run on genuine amiga. but that hardly includes any games, because as you yourself said the os4 machines are nothing other than regular pc ppc systems with regular pc expansion ports like pci, usb, vga to the point that they usually are better support by linux than by os4. as example linux has gallium and 3d hardware acceleration as well as multicore support, os4 obviously doesnt. to put it stright there is no technical continuity between amiga and os4, aros or morphos hardware. if you are looking for a further development of technical concepts behind genuine amiga you might look at various fpga projects like for instance this one:
http://www.apollo-core.com/

[wawrzon]

a fool and his money are quickly parted

not a fool, just a newcomer, who is a victim of misleading information.

yeah, emulating an Amiga on an Amiga type of deal

correctly, its emulating amiga on an "amigaone", if people wouldnt insist on calling things what they are not, it would be more honest and helpful towards visitors.

@cpaek72

if i was you i would take my time and observe a little before taking a serious decision, not to regret it later. especially i wouldt base it on persuasion to support something, before you know very well, what it is.

[wawrzon]

@Oldsmobile_Mike
the guy is known for trolling like that. if one meant it a an actual advise, he would have to make it sound at least a bit sane. but of course this is not the merit.

[wawrzon]

And my last Amiga I bought was "AGA crap" (A4000 with graphic card, before I owned a A1200 and before that a A500). So the "crap" is part of the history of many people here in opposite to PPC.

actually he said the aga games were "crap". whatever the case, in whatever comparison aga games and aga itself as technological solution were behind the comparable pc options at their time, and not as revolutionary as genuine amiga (1000). though it is in no relation to the current situation of os4 in terms of rtg technology or available games.

[wawrzon]

"FPGA emulators are waste of time and money.

The same is also true with the Amiga 1200.

AGA games were craps."

ok he says A1200 was a waste of time and money

the same is true for his PPC. Replacing old technology with another one partly even expensive one makes no sense either.

hard to tell. plain amiga1200 is likely to be found for almost no cash. an 030 accel with some ram and the few expansions they offer may be worth an fpga device. still such a device may be not fully compatible nor tested, same as the genuine amiga may have hardware issues to start with or due to its age. none of both compares in cost to almost useless ppc expansion, thats a proven fact.

[wawrzon]

Weren't we discussing the Red One X and the X1000?

whats there to discuss? plain boring..

[wawrzon]

I bought Amiga 1200 in 1993.

Amiga 1200 was worth nothing underpowered overpriced crap.

Because AGA had no chunky pixel, AGA was 24 times slower than SVGA card for 386 PC.

In 1993, for the price of Amiga 1200 I could buy 386 which was many times faster than Amiga 4000.

Amiga 1200 was waste of time and money.

I really regret money spent on crap made by Commodore.

Today Amigas are not as good as the amiga 500 of course.

They are not even as good as those produced in 2003.

Even so, today Amigas  are far better than the Amiga 1200.

im not really sure if an a1200 was that much worse than a regular pc of 1993, while being portable and afair not being in comparison so much more expensive. it also still had its choice of software, expansions, dealers and support.

if someone says that this is worse than the contemporary situation of os4, where one needs to invest multiple amount of cash for a fraction of what a budget pc can deliver in every respect, where there is no unique software that would justify such an investment, and where there is no prospect that it might change, must be seriously misguided.