X1000 - what do you think of this

[wawrzon]

seems each x1k will have to be sent to tha manufacturer to remove the obsolete pci cards as soon as onboard components are supported. i wonder if that is covered by service/warranty?

[wawrzon]

@vox: (re)configuring your hardware means a loss of warranty? must have been lucky since ive ever been able to return unsatisfactory components..

[wawrzon]

@transition:
figures. perhaps thats why a customer shouldnt swap gfx cards within a x1k. the machine could disappear back into a fictive alternate reality.

[wawrzon]

@darrin:
do i guess right, that these manufacturers you are talking about, usually supply the customer with setups that are not fully supported in therms of drivers until the warranty expires? its self explanatory, the customer must not modify the setup to gain better functionality in this case, other than on his own risk.

[wawrzon]

@hans:

It's much easier to prove/disprove if something broke due to a manufacturing defect if users keep their mits out of the case.

who knows. i wasnt able to fry much hardware due to own fault. well. i have damaged a perfectly working a1200 board dropping a screwdriver on it and causing a short but it was twenty years ago and thats about all i can think of. i usually dont even close my pc case and testing aros68k now im swapping the hardware in my a4000s almost hot since at least about a year.

but then, given the whole amount of hardware trouble the users have with their a1s and sams its probably really better to keep the customers at the safe distance. admittedly its very difficult to thell who is at fault here.

[wawrzon]

This is irrelevant, as the customers were fully informed on what they were buying

that really tells us something about the crowd, right?

[wawrzon]

@klx300r
ah btw hows timberwolf doing? is it under daily usage already on your os4 setup? ive heard its much better than the previous alpha.. i mean we, sitting on the fence, always keep our eyes on that stuff.

[wawrzon]

@iggy
remember owb is alien and not "amiga" native software. or have you not heard that one before?

[wawrzon]

In regards to the X1000, from day one I always felt the biggest mistake was the fact they didn't simply offer an Acube style mobo only option for system builders.

given how much problems some users are obviously putting a working os4 system together, i think the choice to provide a preconfigured machine was actually a better one.

[wawrzon]

@duce:

I haven't heard out of anyone having trouble with the SAM's they put together themselves.

here you go:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=35226&forum=33

while, as it seems this isnt exactly customary to talk about the problems in the open, it rather appears usual to accept them as a part of the deal and only report back in case of major breakage. you might notice remarks such as to head with it to hyperion forum. not that it obviously helps so much, but it "keeps noise level down" and "trolls off".

[wawrzon]

at least the a600/1200 had an expansion door to attach regular upgrades such as accels without the neccessity to open the case. the hd upgrade was another question though, whis has seldom be handled in exactly professional way i must admit..

[wawrzon]

this tradition is bull****!! i never tinker with any computer be it amiga or not unless i need to..