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Offline HenryCase

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Re: Zune for all platforms
« Reply #14 from previous page: September 21, 2011, 09:49:11 AM »
@kickstart
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Maybe takemehome... not develop mui applications but he can give opinions, no need to develop.


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I agree why does someone have to be a MUI Dev to post opinion or underestand what the issues are.


If I understood correctly, the reason Rebel-CD32 asked what MUI applications takemehomegrandma has worked on is because takemehomegrandma was implying he had an in-depth knowledge of MUI (implying you can code for MUI3.8 features without incident).

To have an in-depth knowledge of MUI, you need to have coded using it, end of. Learning about the real challenges of creating cross-platform programs only come from practical application of the tools. So whilst you're entitled to an opinion on the challenges coders face, if you're a non-coder forgive me if I take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

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I expect Zune developers to have some kind of list like this as their roadmap towards MUI4?


We only need a map of features for MUI3.8 at the moment, as stated before the plan is to get to MUI3.8 compatibility first, investigation about MUI4 can wait until later.
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Re: Zune for all platforms
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2011, 10:31:22 AM »
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By non-coder do you mean non-mui coder or just non-coder?


Both apply, but a coder that hadn't used MUI would understand it less than a coder that had, so whilst I'd be more likely to pay heed to the advice of a coder over a non-coder, I'd respect the opinions of a MUI coder even further.

In other words, in terms of understanding:

Less understanding - - - - - - - - - - - More understanding
Non-coder - - - Coder that hadn't used MUI --- MUI coder

I'd say the reasons for this are pretty obvious.
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Re: Zune for all platforms
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2011, 12:03:11 PM »
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Then Morphos devs said that they gave back source code to Aros. So if intuition rely on MUI internals on Morphos then its not a problem as you gave back the corrected/modified source code to Aros, or Am I missing something?


The MorphOS devs haven't violated the terms of the APL. They aren't required to share every change they made to the AROS code, APL is not like a GPL licence in this way.

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Can we get back to discussing the bounty please. Who is interested in donating (if not straight away, then later)? If you're not interested in the Phase 1 bounty, would you be interested in supporting later Zune Fix bounties?
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Re: Zune for all platforms
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2011, 07:14:14 PM »
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Is there some agreement between MorphOS and MUI dev that MUI4 can not be used on AOS4 or AROS?


Not in those exact words, but pretty much, yes.

Besides, why hold yourself back with closed source solutions (which mean waiting for permission for a port), when the possibility exists to have the improvements we want without the politics?
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Re: Zune for all platforms
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2011, 07:50:11 PM »
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Wasn't there some talk of porting Zune to Linux at some point?

That would be great as being able to recompile MUI apps to run natively on Linux would open up a whole new world of opportunities.


Zune actually started out on Linux IIRC. The port hasn't been maintained though.
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Re: Zune for all platforms
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2011, 09:45:20 AM »
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IMNSHO it should be done like this:

1) Get Zune to fully implement all publicly known MUI 4 functionality to achieve 100% source code compatibility.
2) Make Zune work on OS 3.x, OS4, AROS and MorphOS.
3) Once all that is achieved stop tracking MUI 4 and do whatever the feck the Zune developers like whilst keeping Zune working on all four platforms.


Bingo.

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You've clearly got your own agenda that is little to do with Zune. Suggest you make your own thread to share your ideas.
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