Hyperion OS4 BPPC Survey.

[MarkTime]

I have a towerized A1200, mediator, ethernet, some other cards....on the way.

And I was about to order my Blizzard, with 060 and 210mhz.....found a good price on one.

But hold the BUS.....they had already promised OS 4 for Blizzard, people made purchases based on their promised...now they are running a survey to see if they are going to do it.

Ya, ya, ya....no I won't participate in the survey, and I'm cancelling any plans to get a blizzard....can't trust people in this market.

It's OK though, Hyperion....I got my miggy at a good price and I can still sell it.

[MarkTime]

I'll also remind people that they said, the blizzard port was a two week job.

You know, I feel the most sorry for people who bought Blizzard's new, from DCE, or recently got them repaired, believing OS 4 was imminent.

How can some of you sit and there and not be outraged.  People in this market are tired of getting taken for money based on false promises.

Now OS 4 for Blizzard has suddenly gone from a done deal to a big maybe, and soon from maybe to NO, and we never promised it, are you crazy?

lol

[MarkTime]

if Microsoft said WinXP would run on that machine, then I would expect WinXP to run on it, and WinXP would run on it, because for whatever else Microsoft may be, they aren't liars.

As for you not remembering that Hyperion promised a Blizzard version...I have decided to not make any mention of where they made the promise.

You have 'Amiga memory' and there isn't much more to say about it.

I'm selling my Amiga as soon as it arrives, and going back to waiting for the troubled waters to settle down.....

[MarkTime]

ok all...I've calmed down and decided to take the intellectual approach after all.  Many of you legitimately do not remember any promises from Hyperion, and think some of us are crazy.

Here is how I remember things:

What they said:

1/26/2002, Interview with Ben Hermans
http://glames.online.fr/infos/itw_hermans.html
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We will support AmigaOne, Cyberstorm PPC, Blizzard PPC (99% sure).

5/14/2002, Interview with Han-Joerg Frieden of Hyperion Entertainment:
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9. Is the situation with BlizzardPPC hopeless?

No, quite the contrary. We're quite positive that OS 4 will run on the BlizzardPPC.


How it was used by retailers to sell products:
Amiga.org, software hut update July 4th, 2002:
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OS 4 UPDATE

...we will begin taking orders on the Mediator, Amiga One and OS 4 for existing owners of the Cyberstorm and Blizzard PPC boards

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People bought Blizzards and Mediators
believing they had an OS 4 platform.  It was a good
excuse to keep investing in classic hardware.

I thought Hyperion was a cut above Amiga, Inc. in terms
of being trustworthy/open/ and  honest.  I hope
they still are, but somehow they've gotten the idea
its survey time, instead of deliver on promise time
and that makes me quite worried.

EDIT

by the way, I can't find the sources for all the things
I remember being said, like 'of course we will
support Blizzard PPC, that's been the Amiga market
for the last two years'

ETC.....I'll stick with what can be verified, sigh.
but I'm not crazy!  and yes, at times they showed
some doubt, but they kept back tracking on the doubt......and reassuring people...WHY....

[MarkTime]

by the way folks, I'm not just defending
people who can't defend themselves, like
Slovenians without internet connections...
but also I took a hit this time myself...
these posts made just hours! before this survey
announcement:

OK, I'm so serious about my porting work on the Mozilla project, I actually bought a real amiga

Towerized A1200, Mediator*, Ethernet...

and in a second post:

But then again, they already promised a Blizzard version so this is definately OS 4 upgradable in theory

obviously, if anyone reads the whole posts I made, I was entirely full of doubts that anything would be real, and I speculated I would have to turn around and sell the amiga a few days after buying it.

That's why I don't feel too sorry for myself, after all I warned myself, and I didn't listen to myself, so I have only myself to blame...pthfthtllthht :-o  :-o

[MarkTime]

@SlimJim,

How about, they said quite clearly, that the order of ports was Cyberstorm, AmigaONE, and then Blizzard PPC.

The fact that AmigaONE comes after Cyberstorm makes it less certain??? Is that what you are saying?

Why do you even begin to defend this absurdity.
That type of reasoning is wrong.  The poll, for one,
just is nonsensical.   The constantly changing directions of Amiga, Inc. caused lots of developers
to abandon interest in Amiga, Inc., as Bill P. can tell
you....

Hyperion should not mimic the behaviour of classic  amiga companies with their ridiculous amateur 'polls', and 'guaging interest', and 'prepayments' and all that jazz....

And suddenly stopping to decide on a 'poll' cause
the Blizzard version will be' hard', strikes a blow
to their credibility.  They promised it, they better deliver it.

They aren't drumming up support.  They are doing the opposite.  I will NOT BUY a BLIZZARD PPC or
OS 4, as a result of their waffling.  One sale lost.

I bought the dang hardware just two days ago, LMAO....with the exception of the blizz card.

Well, lucky for me, I won't lose money on trusting
Hyperion, but its only because I'm not going to trust
them again.

From the OS 4 feature list:
Support for the onboard SCSI controllers of the Cyberstorm PPC and BlizzardPPC

GEE MA, I wonder how they were going to support the BlizzardPPC without an OS4 release for BlizzardPPC.

Another reason this poll is ridiculous, besides shooting their own sales in the foot before they get started, is many Amigan's don't participate in these polls or amiga online forums.

If they did, all those Slovenian's would have been chastising me for my remarks yesterday..but since there are none of them here, you had to do it for them.

(good point on the Slovenia thing..btw).

mark

[MarkTime]

@Hardboy,

You need to understand I've been trying to deal with these folks for sometime now.  Yes!!!!

Yes, you are right, they occasionally casted doubt on the Blizzard PPC project.  99% certain is not 100% certain.  But anytime you tried to suggest BlizzPPC is not going to happen, they fired right back, but IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

HOW CAN YOU SAY OTHERWISE,  WE ARE 99% SURE.  We have no reason not to do it.  BlizzPPC *IS* the Amiga market.  THIS WILL TAKE TWO WEEKS.

You understand....do you?

Everyone, please keep buying Amiga hardware, spend your hard earned cash, we need you to keep all Amiga dealers afloat, but then if we turn tail and supply you with NOTHING that is OK too.

It up to you, the Amigan, to keep spending money...we, as a highly respected company, are obligated to do nothing.

The most frustrating thing about all this, is the
constant defense of these companies...
but I do respect Wayne, for taking a stand against
Amiga, Inc....who was, after all the main offender,
hyperion is heaven sent by comparison...

but its still not a good way to do business, and until
a developer knows what to expect, well...its very
hard to bother.