Fleecy: No One Had Pre-Ordered OS4

[MarkTime]

yes, if you read it in context, you will see that Fleecy doesn't classify the pre-orders of OS 4 as such, and separates them.

What he considers a pre-order of OS 4 is just purchasing OS 4, stand-alone, and waiting for the unfinished product to arrive.

To amiga dealer's credit, I don't know of anyone doing that specific thing.

To the rest of us, the party pack, the coupon deal, the purchase of an AmigaONE board with OS 4 included....all represent pre-orders of OS 4, because these are people who are owed a copy of OS 4, for which they have already paid for....yes, as part of a promotion.

ahhh, either way, its not news, or new....just a different way of wording the same issue.

[MarkTime]

well Hyperion and Eyetech are not responsible for doing anything, and therefore, what they are doing is fine.

However, if either of them were responsible for carrying forward the Amiga platform, then they are doing lousy, because the Amiga platform is almost entirely stagnant.

All we have is a very highly priced PPC motherboard in the AmigaONE, and an OS that is forever in development.

Don't know how thats great, or good news.  

But on the other hand, given that they are doing more for the platform, than say....well Amiga, Inc. even does....then, sure they are doing great.

[MarkTime]

What part of the statement that the A1 is high priced and that OS 4 is still in development is confusing you?

*oh I get it*..you think they are responsible for moving forward the amiga platform....in that case, define how they are doing 'great'?

To answer your question, I am not from Mars, there are no living humans on Mars.

[MarkTime]

I think when you ask questions like 'Are you from Mars' you are minimalizing the chance for a good discussion and instead taking the discussion down towards the level of a personal affront and possible hurt feelings, and while I am fairly thick skinned, as you are, I'm sure...it has the possibility of hurting someones feelings, and gosh knows how the conversations go after peoples feelings are hurt.

I gathered you think they are doing great.

I wouldn't shoulder the responsibility of moving the platform forward on Eyetech.  They are merely a licensee....that is why I say, they aren't responsible for such a task...because, in fact...they are not.

the Licensee program, on the whole, has been a complete and utter failure.  It has produced only one, or two if you count both revisions of the A1, one vastly overpriced, slow, and not modernly spec'd PPC motherboard.  i.e 2xAGP in a world of 8xAGP, PC133 memory, in the DDR and Rambus age, etc. etc.

On the otherhand, its not Eyetech's responsibility to administer the licensee program...they are just one of the licensee's, and as such they are doing their modest bit to add a hardware choice to the platform.

Amiga, Inc., as the one promoting and signing licensee's, is the company that has failed to advance this platform, utilizing this strategy.

Hyperion, on the other hand, that is a contractor for Amiga, inc. that so far has produced nothing.

It's not hard for me to remember a time when there were no OS updates for years, because we are in one of those times right now.

Nevertheless, Hyperion, will probably eventually, finish OS 4.

Whether this should be considered 'great' or not, in my opinion, is whether Hyperion has done a better job, than another company would have done....

they only did the job, they didn't do a 'great' job...just my opinion of course...but they were very late, issuing many false directions and false predictions.
What defines 'great' and what is 'average' and what is 'poor' are all relative terms, and subjective.

However, I think its actually the case, that for the sake of the community, we want to say Amiga, Inc. is bad, and Hyperion is good.  But the reality is, Amiga, Inc. is very bad, and Hyperion is merely not quite that bad.

my 2 cents.