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Re: help please
« on: July 17, 2011, 01:18:50 PM »
First off, welcome to the wonderful world of AMIGA! :)

The reason you do not get the purple "insert Disk" screen is that you have a hard drive in your A600.  This isn't a bad thing, by the way nor is it a malfunction.

If you don't want the Hard Drive to load, you can either insert a disk at startup.  This will attempt to load the disk information instead of booting from the hard drive.  This does not disable the Hard Drive so it will be running in the background and is accessible.

Also, you can hold down both mouse buttons at startup.  This will bring up the early startup menu where you can choose to disable the Hard Drive.  Do a soft reset and now you will get the purple "insert disk" screen.  You will continue to get this until you power off the A600 and start it again (hard reset).  The down side is that you now have no access to the Hard Drive if you needed to load files from it.

Hope this helps you out ;)
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Re: help please
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 01:32:10 PM »
Oh right!  Champ Manager issues.

Could you be more specific on what happens when it crashes?

You said you have a lot of this game.  Do you get the exact same error no matter which disk you use?

If you are getting the exact same problem every time, the issue could be one of the following:

- The A600 is PAL and the game is NTSC (or other way around)

If you look at the disk, they usually say what region the game is in.  If the Keyboard on the A600 is anything other than the standard English format, it is very likely a PAL system.

If this is your problem, you will need a program that will temporarily change your system into the format you need.  Two that I know of are Degrader and Re-Lo Kick.  They are mainly used to get by issues using older games on newer systems, but they also have the ability to do what you need.

- The game requires more memory then you have available.

If you try to load the game after disabling the Hard Drive (mentioned in my previous post) and then it works, it is a memory issue.  To Mount and access the Hard Drive uses memory and sometimes that is the culprit.

The Hard Drive check is the easiest to do so I would try that first.

Let us know what you find out!:)
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Re: help please
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 02:14:59 PM »
Quote from: sargeantinio;649991
well that didnt change anything do i need to mess with advaced options first ??
Hmmm, try disabling ALL the drive except DF0: (Disk-Floppy-0 meaning the first floppy)
 
Since it is looking like you are mounting several partitions (DH0-2 and maybe even CC0) you will want to disable ALL of them as each one will take up a bit of memory, IIRC.
 
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Re: help please
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 02:40:54 PM »
Hmm, ok, then just reactivate CC0 and see what it does.

If that doesn't help, go ahead and restart the A600 with all Hard Drives active and no floppy inserted in the drive.  Let workbench load up.  Left click anywhere on the screen and this should pull up your memory stats across the top.

You will two different types of memory listed; Graphics and Other.  List what you have here and we can go from there.
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Re: help please
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 02:53:30 PM »
So Now that I'm "home" from "work", I can get onto Lemonamiga and Lall of Light.  The box cover says you need 1 Meg of ram to play the game.  This would be your Graphics memory, not your Other memory.

So if you are seeing less than 1,000K (1 Meg.) memory, you are going to have a tough time running the game.  If it says something close to 1, then it should work with disabling the Hard Drives...

Also, if you get to upgrading your system, this game is hard drive installable so that would be a bonus to getting the extra Graphics memory...
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Re: help please
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 03:24:39 PM »
What I have already given you will disable the Hard Drives.  Did you try disabling everything except for DF0 and CC0?  If you did and you still get the memory crash, they the problem is that the A600 does not have enough memory to run the game. :(

Sorry.

There are things you can buy to upgrade the memory in your A600, but that is a whole other thing to deal with.  Let us know how it all turns out.  IF you are looking for upgrade for it, look around or Google "A600 Amiga upgrade" or something like that.

Good LUCK!
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