Lets talk about A1222 - Tabor

[kreciu]

AmiWest is coming and maybe A1222 with it.

I was reading specs and there is written:

HDMI LCD Interface
• 24 bit colour depth
• Support for resolution up to 1280x1024
• HDMI 1.3 support

Is this some sort of integrated GPU?

What kind of Radeon cards will be supported? Radeon HD? There is plenty of them.

BTW. I hope it will come with back plate  (I could not stop myself!).

[kreciu]

Thanks for the info. The tabor is later, but she wil come. I am happy with that news.
Here a youtube movie with the a1222 at work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA3bTeJcD2c&feature=youtu.be

It works quite nice. I hope it will be even better when second core will be used be AmigaOS. I really hope price will be "affordable" and we can finally SEE it available.

Cant wait money is waiting. This is going to be like getting my first A500 all over again... performance looks fine to me..

More like A1200

[kreciu]

I see, that is quite disappointing. I was hoping that integrated gpu could be useful  somehow. It would be nice to have itx motherboard in one of those super tiny cases.

If this gpu is "useless" and can't run even AmigaOS in reasonable way I would not bother in including it at all in this motherboard, but as usual not my choice to make.

[kreciu]

Of course it can be used.
Hardware acceleration isn't an absolute requirement.
And some of the PCI-E cards that are supported under OS4.1 can be had quite cheaply.

I can find Radeon HD 6450 cards on eBay right now starting at $13.95, which would allow dual OS4/Linux support.
And Radeon HD 7450 cards start at $15.

Personally, in half height cards, I rather like the HD 8490 or the R5 230 (both use the same core).

And R7 240 cards aren't that expensive.

BTW - I had thought the $500 price point was for the board only, if its for the entire system, all the better.

I wonder what HW acceleration mean? OpenGL?

I'm not concerned about price of GPU that can be used as a someone who is considering $500 motherboard.

If (when) I will get A1220 (or something similar) I don't intend to play games on this computer. MY intent is to use it for AmigaOS4.1 and software (web browser primary + everything that comes with it), instead of emulation.

So, if I could use COMFORTABLY AmigaOS4.1 + browser that will make very nice tiny computer (I have few "towers" in my house already) in one of those tiny ITX cases. Like on PC, I have ancient intel mobo (about 8 year old) and Win 10 run on integrated GPU wonderfully (GMA X4500) (4k don't play well using youtube ).

We will see.

[kreciu]

Is there the list of Radeon GPUs that are supported by AmigaOS4.1 that could be used?

[kreciu]

I'm looking at some passively cooled GPU, and I hope I can find nice passive cooler for CPU.

I also hope that fpu issue will be solved.

I know this will sound strange, but are this motherboards REALLY designed from scratch for A-EON?

Is there any indication/rumors A1222 can be delivered as a whole "system" (case, GPU?)?

[kreciu]

So, after Trevor presentation not much new we need to wait for network and sound drivers and release date depend on those two. There is also an issue of fpu that is not solved yet.

We are going to get Radeon memory access (?) and new driver for Radeon RX.

He also mentioned that price will be around 400 Euro (or less/around), not bad.

What is new, we have to WAIT.

"Wait if over" - never

[kreciu]

When I listen about laptop project based on Tabor UT sounded that "Tabor" has everything to become DIY laptop. That would mean that integrated gpu is not that tragic.

[kreciu]

The more I listen about all of this "projects" (and complete lack of direction) there more I'm convinced I'm going to keep my Amiga Classic and EMULATE AmigaOS4.1. Maybe I will set up separate machine for it based on some cheap i5 itx mobo  and run it under linux/uea thingy... basically "ALICE" as a desktop.

Who selected PPC without fpu, that now it becomes limitation? Why Sam is not produced anymore? Do we really need multiple motherboards so dev. need to make "Ethernet/sound drivers" again and again?

I listened to one talk yesterday night about AmigaOS4.1 and emulation. Conclusion was that it is NOT about hardware it is about AmigaOS4.1 (3.x). Great, but why to even bother with emulation? Make it PC (or old mac) compatible so I don't have to emulate it anymore.

My excitement (at the moment) about A1222 = zero.

[kreciu]

What really turned off my enthusiasm toward A1222 after AmiWest was general enthusiasm toward emulation of AmigaOS4.1 as a GOOD method of running AmigaOS. So, what is a point of developing ANY hardware for AmigaOS4.1? That was my impression.

[kreciu]

OK. Time to "stir" it again. Any new about Tabor ? When EARLY 2018 ends, I hope before July ?

[kreciu]

@kreciu

Could you add a space or two in that insanely long signature of yours, so that browsers can wrap the pages you post on better? :p

Your wish is my command.

Is it better?

I will NEVER remove Win98SE... never

[kreciu]

It's a good platform for DOS games.

EXACTLY.

So, no Tabor anytime soon

[kreciu]

Is it possible that Tabor will have a new FPU library to solve the incompatibility problem?

I think that at this point it is better to ask this: Is Tabor possible?

[kreciu]

Oooh...!



Yes, much better, thanks!

You are welcome!