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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« on: December 30, 2010, 11:48:19 AM »
great news now the ps3 is pretty much open like the xbox1. we know how popular that one was when it was hacket... so there is interesting times ahead for the ps3 :-)
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 01:15:37 PM »
here is the first standalone linux boot on the ps3....start at 3:00..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8QBtKmIjc

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 04:54:19 PM »
after what i understood the ps3 is so hacked now that if sony are going to fix anything. they must start all over again and release a new consol... that will not happen. looks like some serious hack this one...
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »
When copied games can be run, console sales go up. Watch the PS3 sales now......
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 05:25:56 PM »
Quote from: cv643d;603029
Makes sense and is good if it leads to PS3 with 3TB HD full of games and in game reset enabled on joypads. I have missed this functionality on these consoles,

XBOX established this level of usage, aka level 1 - unlocked and ready to blow.



why you need reset?

all you do is press the ps3 button on the joypad then you can enter the xmb...
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2011, 11:24:41 AM »
Quote from: ciento;603178
If I was Mr. Sony, I'd cut a deal to reinstate otheros permanently, and fund
'many' summer-of-code projects, in return for not releasing the goods into the wild.
Maybe need to sweeten the pot with  hypervisor access too, since PS4 is X years away still, and full 3D access on PS3 would take a while to code, so it might not
hamper new sales in the interim.

But maybe it's too late. :)


its to late for the ps3 now, its hacked. my guess there will be no otheros and more tighten security for the ps4. sony said that the ps3 will have a 10 years life spam commercially before a new ps. so its now 5 years left...
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2011, 01:08:27 PM »
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i don't know what the original terms of this were in terms of for how long or the support offered by Sony for OtherOS was, but the PS3 is primarily a games console and this is why the vast majority of people buy it.

Those people who did buy it to specifically run OtherOS would probably have a case in that the PS3 doesn't do what its supposed to, but warranties/damages would be likely be limited to a refund on the purchase price, and those buyers would have that option to return their PS3's and get their money back.  BUT I BET THEY WON'T.

Just like the iPhone reception issues:  In Aus, Apple said if you're not happy with it, we'll give you a refund http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/iphone/apple-offers-free-cases-refunds-to-iphone-4-owners-20100717-10ell.html.  But most people didn't, because the thing is so damned good, Apple basically called the bluff of everyone who wanted "compensation"..I bet this is what would happen with those who want the PS3 to run OtherOS.  And Sony know this too.


sony have earned their money in a 5 year none piracy periode. with games like call of duty-black ops that earned over $1 billion in less than a month when its first was released. piracy isnt a concern anymore. even when ps3 are hacked sony and game companies will sell games but maybe not earn that much anymore... i guess everything  is a loss if you cant top the earnings you have had before... its called greed i say, so i welcome piracy at this stage of ps3.
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 03:55:59 PM »
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It simple, distributing the software key is an unauthorized use of Sony IP.
You may see an open/freely disbuted OS like Linux us this hack, but it really unlikely AOS4 or MorphOS would be ported to this platform without the direct approval of Spny (whether the hack exists or not) as  this would open up Hyperion or the MorphOS development team to legal actions.



AOS4 & MorphOS are pretty much out of the picture here thats for sure. but there is maybe a tiny hope for AROS, who knows.....
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 09:06:37 PM »
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I don't own a PS3 but I'm going to buy one now just to play around writing code for it.

I doubt I'll ever buy a game for it nor will I pirate any games either.

the makers of Ico and Shadow of the Colossus come with a new game called The Last Guardian....
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14230646.html

video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPpCKjFrXzE

Ico
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/014/014833.html

Shadow of the Colossus
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/490/490849.html



other great games..

heavy rain..
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/811/811232.html

the uncharted drake series...
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/812/812550.html
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14225971.html
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/094/094314.html

red dead redemtion
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/748/748481.html
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/080/080424.html

gt5
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/857/857126.html

gods of war 3
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/886/886158.html

these are just a few games that you will buy or pirate, thats for sure..
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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 11:29:42 PM »
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at the moment I use my ps3 as my media hub, but it just doesn't support all the media files I want it to.


what media files of yours do the ps3 not support?
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2011, 11:07:18 AM »
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Allowing Morphos and OS4 ports would generate a few thousand PS3 sales, while
dissallowing them earns them nothing. Either they are morons, or elitists too rich to care.

Sony dont need Morphos and OS4 ports, so they would send their lawyers on you if they see any commercial os running on thir ps3. but for the open source x86 aros there shouldnt be any problem if they had the time and wanted to do the port, i think...
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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 01:22:24 PM »
here is a interesting read......

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Hacking the PlayStation 3

In the end of 2009, Hotz announced his efforts to hack the Sony PlayStation 3, a console widely regarded as being the only fully locked and secure system of the seventh generation era. Hotz opened a blog to document his progress, and five weeks later, on January 22, 2010, he announced that he had successfully hacked the machine by enabling himself read and write access to the machine's system memory and having hypervisor level access to the machine's processor. Hotz also detailed the many things his work could allow, such as homebrew and PlayStation 2 emulation (a feature removed by Sony in newer revisions of the console to tackle production costs).

On January 26, 2010, Hotz released the exploit to the public. It requires the OtherOS function of the machine, and consists of a Linux kernel module and gaining control of the machine's hypervisor via bus glitching. Hotz wrote that "Sony may have difficulty patching the exploit". On March 28, 2010, Sony has responded by announcing to release a PlayStation 3 firmware update that removes the OtherOS feature, a feature that was already absent on the newer Slim revisions of the machine. This generated an uproar by the PlayStation 3 community. Hotz had then announced plans of a custom firmware, similar to the custom firmware for the PlayStation Portable, to enable Linux and OtherOS support, while still retaining the features of newer firmwares.

As of April 7, 2010, Hotz had posted a video on the internet detailing his supposed progress with custom firmware on the machine, and showing a PlayStation 3 running and having the OtherOS feature enabled on firmware 3.21. He had named his custom firmware as 3.21OO, and said it may work on newer Slim models of the console, as the feature was removed altogether with the launch of the newer revision. However, he had never announced a release date for the alleged firmware nor had he mentioned whether he was working on the same hack for the latest firmware version of 3.41.

On July 13, 2010, Hotz posted a message on his Twitter account stating that he was giving up trying to crack the PS3 any further.

On December 30, 2010, following a presentation at Chaos Communication Congress where new vulnerabilities were published, Hotz released "dePKG", a firmware package decrypter for the Playstation 3.

On January 2, 2011, Hotz published the metldr key on his personal website, which allows users to decrypt and sign anything they wish on their Playstation 3 console using the key. This allows any developer to write and sign their own code to run on the Playstation 3 without Sony's consent.

source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geohot
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2011, 11:29:02 PM »
Hacker Claims To Have The PS3's Front Door Keys...

http://kotaku.com/5723105/hacker-claims-to-have-the-ps3s-front-door-keys

it seems pirated games will be virtually undetectable in this case unlike the risk over-present in the xbox360. i predict a significant jump in sales of ps3s within the year.
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2011, 02:29:26 AM »
 

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Re: PS3 security is "epic fail"
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 01:37:38 PM »
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oh and on ps3 media limitation, I know I could re-transcode my files but that takes time, plus I dont like having to leave on my big power sucking pc on just to stream data to my ps3, I prefer to just have all my files I need on my console, and wifi single have never been that strong in my house, plus ny 320gb hard drive in the ps3 has nearly over 250gb just on game installs and demos I've downloaded, so I think I will just use my Ps3 as a game machine and have a dedicated computer for my media and other hobby's, with no restitutions, no work around I need to implement etc.

now with the ps3 you can use as big hd you want. its not liker the xbox360... so you can take out the hd go buy a 2tb at your local conmputer shop and install it.. all you do is format it and updated it from from the xmb menu, then your ready to go... use tversity to ftp over the files from your pc to the ps3..
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