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Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« on: June 30, 2015, 09:50:47 PM »
I have at least one empty A1200 shell sure there's another around somewhere so it would be great if I wanted to build a new system from scratch since it will be cheaper than getting an A1200 motherboard and building up a system based around that.
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2015, 11:07:00 AM »
Quote from: danbeaver;791873
Per recent discussions, the Flash ROM option means Amigakit will not carry/sell this item.  But I will just order directly from icomp.de myself.


I seem to have missed those discussions.  Can provide a link or just give a brief summary.
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2015, 04:39:44 PM »
Quote from: Brian;791896
I understand all the IComp modules being left out to get the cost down but I'd realy like to see at least the IndivisionAGA be included.

Some people prefer to hook up an old 15khz CRT or SCART TV for their display and would be asking why they have to pay extra for a built in SD/FF.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 04:47:14 PM by Rob »
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 11:17:26 PM »
Quote from: Brian;791912
@Mike
Exactly my point... I just pointed out that "I don't want to pay extra for X" wasn't the argument I was making but that I thought a propper videooption shouldn't be an option to begin with on an Amiga motherboard.


There is a limited number of I/O cutouts on the rear of the case so including one option on the motherboard might exclude the possibility of the other.  This is especially the case with the A500.  Sure, you can make your own with a dremmel but a lot of people won't be happy to make cosmetic alterations to their case which can't be reversed.

The layout of the I/O ports on the A500 and A1200 are different too so unless users are forced butcher the case at least some of it will have to be on fly-leads anyway and that's only a step away from it on a seperate module.

Another consideration is that since the board will have an original Lisa chip, the current Indivisions are most likely compatible and therefore owners of such hardware wouldn't require any other video output.

When it all comes down to it I don't really see what the big deal is if the video output is on the mainboard or not.  The only important part is that it actually ships with that output.
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 11:34:28 PM »
Quote from: danbeaver;791914
See http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=69093 on Flash ROM's

Read post #11 and forward from there.


The wiki says that it will come with fully licensed ROMs rather than blanks so there will be no issues there.

Jens has had a license for kickstart 1.3 and 3.1 from Hyperion since Q1 2013.
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2015, 02:15:12 PM »
Quote from: danbeaver;791947
Kindly read the discussion more closely.


I did.  They already sell/sold ACA500 anyway.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1168
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2015, 08:40:02 AM »
Quote from: NovaCoder;792007
Yep I agree.

At a minimum I'd like it to include:

Indy Mrk2
LAN
USB


Buy those modules with the board then.  Simple.
 

Offline Rob

Re: More info on 'Amiga Reloaded'
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2015, 12:14:20 PM »
Quote from: ddniUK;792019
I tend to agree that a new baseline board with the essentials included would be preferable. The USB/VGA/NIC/CPU kludges we have now are driven by necessity to work with the classic motherboards.
Building these kludges into a new motherboard seems odd.


It won't be kludges though since the module will have a dedicated connections on the motherboard rather than clipping over a chip or hanging off some port that was never designed for the purpose.

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Who knows why this approach has been taken, it may be driven by I/O limitations of the AGA chips, build costs or a desire to shift a large stock of individual computers add on cards.


It's mainly because different people have different needs.  If you're building a WHDload games machine your less likely to want USB and a NIC, while other users may view those items as essential.