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Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 23, 2009, 02:14:20 AM »
@arnljot

IsnĀ“t Amiga Inc. still the copyright holder of AmigaOS 3.9? There is already a helpfull user trying with no success to contact them reagarding this project, so that we may achieve official status. If anyone has or knows another way to contact Amiga Inc.  please drop me a line.

About naming, well it is called "Unofficial BoingBag 3", so the name says it all. So just for simplicity sake it is named in several places BoingBag 3, but then that is informally.
And this Unofficial adjective has been in its name since the beginning. If unsure check http://lilliput.host-cafe.com
However if you would like a name change, make a poll and if you get the majority of votes from all the choices presented here, or even some new ones. Then we can change it, it is really not an issue.

@AmiKit
Thanks for your recommendations and kind comments, but as said before, I am one of many which are involved in this project, and they all trully diserve the merit and the corresponding credit!
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Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2009, 02:28:03 AM »
Give me 10 minutes and consider it done!
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2009, 03:09:30 PM »
Okay add my vote too - hopefully Thomas Richter can publish his patches & updates this way too, instead of waiting.. ;-)

@kolla
I agree with you. As said before there is a user trying to contact Amiga Inc. regarding OS 3.9, but should he try to contact Hyperion too? And what about Haage & Partner?
By the way Amiga Inc. is still unreachable by email. Can anyone help?

Has anyone got Thomas Richter email?
« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 03:14:29 PM by Gulliver »
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2009, 09:57:13 PM »
@matthey

I was thinking the exact same things! i am going to try to contact Stephen Fellner first!
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2009, 11:31:09 PM »
RiVA author was contacted, what follows is the email exchange:

Hello!
 
I have planned on releasing RiVA as freeware at some stage, but have
not done so due to lack of interest at the time. I suppose it wouldn't
hurt to get it released as freeware even though I don't think many
people are serious about playing videos on classic Amigas these days,
some people may find it useful. However give me some time to get it
sorted out as I don't get as much time for Amiga things lately as I
would like to.
 
Best Regards and a Happy Holiday Season,
Stephen Fellner
 
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:08 PM wrote:
> Dear Stephen Fellner,
>                            I am writting to ask if you could release as
> freeware your copyrighted files corresponding to your RiVA mpeg
> player software product free for non commercial purposes. I hope you can see
> this as a good endeavour and support us with your fully working program as a
> contribution to our small Amiga comunity.
>
> I hope we can count with your blessing, looking forward for an answer,
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Regards,
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2010, 04:18:58 PM »
Well, as you all probably know by now that BoingBag 3 project has been finalized. As someone suggested, it could not transform itself into a moving target any longer, and thus a never ending project goal. So we had put some sense on it and declare it finished.
But this doesnt mean that the idea of enhancing, updating and bugfixing AmigaOS 3.9 has ended. In fact it means we have to start again, with a new BoingBag, now named unofficial BoingBag 4. I believe there is still many things to improve on AmigaOS 3.9, and by the way we already have the first entry, a bugfix for icon.library.
Of course, as usual, you can get the latest updates and information on BoingBag 4

Happy New Year!
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 05:27:06 PM by Argo »
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2010, 07:50:26 PM »
Okay, the Unofficial Boing Bag 4 got an update:

MooVid 1.7 beta
This is the last version of the popular 68k video player available. It contains, even more bugfixes and supported codecs.

For this and BoingBag 3 information and downloads go to:

http://lilliput.host-cafe.com
« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 10:15:09 PM by Gulliver »
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2010, 11:07:34 AM »
BoingBag 4 got new updates:

Canon BJC6000 (and possibly other Canon 720x720) printer drivers. Written for OS3.5/3.9
Includes limited support for photo printhead, and text mode printing.



Epson_Colour_45.lha is a colour printer driver for the  Epson Stylus Colour printers.
It should work with the Stylus S20, D120 or Cx0 series which also supports 1440 dpi.


For more information, patches and updates, visit http://lilliput.host-cafe.com
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2010, 08:16:27 PM »
How odd! I have just installed it withouth any problems at all.
I am using the 3.9 installer.
Maybe you have an older version. type on a cli window "version sys:utilities/installer", it should be version 44.10

Hope it helps
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2010, 11:03:28 PM »
Make sure you are using 44.10, as it will be more compatible. It should work without issues on a 060. So delete the old one you have in C:
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2010, 11:31:50 PM »
I use AFA_OS with no problem together with BB3. You need to use the last version of its components which are not yet on the AFA_OS website. They are over here:
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=643280&postcount=227

The AHI trouble you encounter is made to ensure every soundcard gets supported by default. Just use the AHI preferences editor, select YOUR driver exclusively for each AHI option and save your preferences. Then you can if you want to, erase all the drivers you are not going to use. You shouldnt have any more issues from now on.

Good luck!
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2010, 12:27:58 AM »
From the forthcoming version of AFA_OS 4.7, BB3 will be totally supported.
The problem was that AFA_OS only wanted to work with icon.library 45.1.
Authors of both the updated icon.library and AFA_OS have agreed to work together to solve compatibilty issues. So they released that version that fixed incompatibilties, whilst AFA_OS 4.7 is being developed.
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2010, 01:16:42 AM »
The problem is that openpci is not 100% compatible with Mediators. It is an open source replacement (and that is really good), but it may generate some conflicts.
But most importantly, let me tell you that BB3 is an Operating System update, not a driver update, that is why it requires from the user to ensure the installation of their particular hardware drivers, in a proper manner. Of course there are few concesions made, but they are allowed only in the case they dont generate any incompatibility with other systems (which is not the case of openpci).

Thank you for your ideas and support. Let me try to explain you that the idea behind BB3 is to follow the concepts drawn by AmigaOs 3.9 and attempt to remain as faithfull as possible to the original AmigaOS 3.9 design goal/concept. This means we are rather conservative when it comes to adding system patches, that may eventually create a conflict.
Of course, if you like certain particular set of apps and patches, you are welcomed to create your own AmigaOS distribution/enviroment much like Amikit, AmigaSYS, ClassicWB and AIAB do. But it is not our goal. The objective we target, as said before is to update, enhance and bugfix AmigaOS 3.9 as much as possible, but leaving the user the freedom to choose between any of these emulation/distribution enviroments. We are more focused on the core of the OS, not on the enviroment aspects of it.

I hope you find sense out of my poor and damaged brain ;)

Thanks again, and your suggestions are allways welcomed, as much as you are welcomed to disagree with me and find a safe way to create those patches as rom updates yourself and prove me that I am wrong. :)

After all I am just one of many involved in this project, and I am not allways right! :)
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2010, 08:32:29 AM »
Quote from: matthey;548909
@mike-
 I plan on trying to make a new exec.library which incorporates this, TLSFmem and some optimizations. That would be a better BB inclusion than a patch I think.



Cool!!! Just let us know when you are done, so we give it a try, and of course, include it in BB4 :)
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2010, 08:48:59 AM »
Sorry, @bernd_afa just said what i wanted to explain. And he is the authority on the subject
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Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2010, 08:54:35 AM »
Quote from: bernd_afa;548935
>From the forthcoming version of AFA_OS 4.7, BB3 will be totally supported.

Yes.

AFA 4.7 is near ready, only installer script change so it can install in amikit must done.
I think it can release in 1-2 weeks.

currently this is working

+when use 8 bit screen Icon display use now old Iconlib.AFA work also with PeterK iconlib and BB3.

+ wawa add code for Window gadgets in 8 bit screen look, and AFA look now nicer even on 640*256*4 AGA screens.
   known Problem: On some Programs the size gadget placing is not correct center in 4-256 color screens.

+ All Programs (kingcon) that use builtin Icons can work now without extern Icon.(thanks PeterK for help at this)

+ with Lib Revision 88 the Frameiclass support with the zune Skin System the render of

FRAME_PROPBORDER (compatible with OS4 API)
FRAME_PROPKNOB (compatible with OS4 API)
FRAME_DISPLAYBOX (compatible with OS4 API)
FRAME_WINDOW
FRAME_PAGE
FRAME_GROUP
FRAME_REQUESTER

IA_Orientation (compatible with OS4 API) is used to rotate the slider shading horizontal/vertical


+ fix redraw Problem that happen with Final Data


I am looking forward to the update. It seems a lot of work has been done. Thanks!