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Offline pyrreTopic starter

My BVision just won't work....
« on: May 20, 2007, 07:27:46 PM »
Now i have CGX v4 setup cd.
The V4 setup is no use, since it does not have any option for BVision. So running the BVision setupdisk and updating to V4.
But only the V4.2 rev 1 will install...
Al other displays that spatch is not "doing what it is supposed to do" and to check the errorscreen of spatch. but there is no errorscreen...
I have put the spatch program into every possible location...
But no, it wont work.

On the other hand. so does the BVision to. (not working)
The screen goes black, it shows perfect for 10 sec and locks up...

I have taken out the BVision (as someone told me to do) an run the bios update to the ppc... but to no help...
It still is not working...

I have no more options. DCE is not sending the disk they said the would send. (to no shock from some her at a.org, i guess)

What can i do now to get the &¤"%"#%¤ s¤#%t to work?

(sorry for cursing and bad language, but i am millimeters from smashing the whole computer to splinters...)
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2007, 08:39:51 PM »
I have CGX v42 rc6... but it wont install...
rc1 will... but the screen goes black.

I have tried to manually patch to RC6, going trough RC1, RC4, RC5.. etc..
But i get "wrong library version" error... except when using RC1...

I use OS 3.9. no boingbag...

I don't know whats left to do...
Have tried all the hints ans tips i got from you guys...

I guess it rests on the fact that the PPC just cannot co work with the BVision because of it being a rev 0 card...
And I don't know what to do since DCE is not sending the disk and no one else knows how to firmware upgrade the PPC...
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2007, 09:00:24 PM »
by using the tool board type it identifies which revision of PPC card you are using. On my board it replies;
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BlizzardPPC version 0
This Blizzard has version 0 which may cause HW problems with BVisionPPC
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2007, 09:13:11 PM »
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which firmware upgrade did you put ?

None...
to put the firmware upgrade AFAIK you need to send it to DCE to let them do it. But they stopped repairing amiga equipment 3 years ago. I spoke to a guy at DCE telling me I just had to use a disk to do the upgrade. And that he was to send me the disk. Got the address and all... But now it has passed a month or so. and no disk has yet arrived in my mailbox...

So now my options has completely run out.
I don't know whats left to do...
Other than just use it in AGA modes, where it runs perfect.

I was bidding on a PPC card on ebay some days ago. but they go for much more money than I have now. so for some time I have no hopes in getting a new card. It is really starting to bother me that it wont work...
so much that I wonder if anyone actually got a working BVision...
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2007, 09:20:33 PM »
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Install a working 3.1 setup, and try again with the BVision and the latest CGX update.


I will give that a try tomorrow...
Got to get up early for work....

edit:
Only thing is, I don't have OS 3.1
Only got OS 3.0 (lost the installdisk)
(but, I have the 3.1 kick start ROMs)
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 04:21:19 PM »
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Is the card working ok at powerup ?

Yes, it does.
It shows the early startup screen, even WB.
But it will freeze up, no matter what...
Booting with no startup. I can run for... about 5 - 10 mins and it hangs... And i cannot disable that. until the CGX drivers kick in...

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when i first bought CGX4 for bvision it came with an aditional floppy. This disk was just for the BVision and patched cgx to work with it. Seems no one else has mentioned it. Do u have such a disk.

No I don't.

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You have the Amiga connected and working with a 15 Khz monitor in PAL?

Yes, I have a 1942 monitor.
And when testing CGX modes, or saving for that matter. The screen goes black.. mostly.. bot shows the WB sometimes for seconds... and freezes...


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Then start the required installation. First the install from the CD and then the 4.3 upgrade (rc5 will be enough)

If I start this way, with no CGX libs at all. The wb is shown in the CGX "monitor" (both for that matter), and the computer freezes after a short minute or two...
I can run the setup twice, or copy the bootpic.library..
Then I get the CGX installed. but it won't patch further than RC1... If I manually patch RC 4/5/6... it shows an error message with the text: version of librarys do not match...

edit:
BTW if i install from the CD i get no option of installing BVision. only CyberVision.
and the update won't run, or just shows the option for CyberVision.
When i install the original BVision setupdisk, I can patch it to RC1. with the CD inserted...
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 08:41:49 PM »
@Mad-Matt

Yes, I have done all the modifications. power, cooling (carefully glued heat sinks to the chips of the BVision (and 040) and applied a fan over the sinks), I have modified the timing fault in the 1D4 1200 MB. +++

As i said, i am completely out of options....
I don't know whats left to do.

I have done as i said i would earlier in this post.
But the same happens. Installing CGX takes two attempts, or copy the bootpic.library in libs folder. And updating to newest version, stops at RC1... version of libs do not match...
And finally changing to CGX screen.... Crash...
And that is under a completely fresh install of OS 3.0. and absolutely nothing else... (except CD-rom and zip drive...)
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 07:15:57 PM »
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bootpic always caused me problems so i never used it. It would lock up with a black screen if i enabled it

The bootpic shows up just fine on my computer. (about the only thing that works on the BVision)



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U need that floppy.

Where can I get that disk?



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lso it should be able to boot from a standard workbench disk and display no problem. So try and get a floppy workbench booting first and work from there

I have done that!



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why no boing bags?

Because the boingbags are no issue to the BVision!
I need the BVision up and running first.



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Also just do a base 3.1 install and try with the drivers you got with the card?

Like i said before, I only have WB 3.0.
But, booting from the WB floppy. With ALL harddrives disabled. And no drivers or screen modes installed at ALL.
The BVision shows the WB screen, in crappy and distorted colors. But it only shows that screen (even early startup menu)for a maximum of 10 minutes. depending on what i do. If it just idles it can go for 10 - 15 minutes... Doing something, like dopus... it goes for 1 - 4 minutes...
This is NOT a software or driver related issue. It is related to something HARDWARE! Something is not working properly.
In earlier posts I relate to other forums saying that the REV 0 of my PPC card MAY have something to do with my problems. since no software fixing does not target and repair my problems...
Not to rule something out. But it may or may not be the PPC card, or it may or may not be the BVision itself...
Or for last, it may be related to my A1200 being a REV 1D4.
Which Phase 5 accuse to be the most troubling A1200 MB...

My future attempts in fixing the problem(s):
- Try one or more of my friends A1200 MB (just to see if the    
  problems are in the same matter, or present at all)
- Try another BVision (buy or borrow one)
- Buy a new PPC card. (from eBay, or other options...) Since
  I don't get the disk from DCE, in order to try that
  option...
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder
 

Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: My BVision just won't work....
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 11:55:12 PM »
That is nice...
So far, with the help of people here at amiga.org and other forums. plus dealers.

It is so far discovered that it is a hardware fault.
Since the BVision wont run for long with out hanging.
Even just showing the early startup menu, it hangs after a short time.

And due to shortage of available parts, Blizzard cards and BVision cards I will probably never find out what is the faulty part of my system... :-(
Amiga 1200 Tower Os 3.9
BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
Amiga 2000 (rev 4.0) Os 1.2/1.3
2088 bridgeboard, 2MB ram card, 2091 SCSI.
Amiga 500+ Os 2.1
Derringer 030, 32MBram, Buddha in sidecar, Indivision ECS.
Amiga CD32
Video decoder