Commodore trademark has a new daddy

[Darrin]

Can someone at DiscreetFX confirm or deny these rumours?

If this is the case I'm out of here.

Well it would be one way for Barry to delete the accounts of people he's sent nasty PMs to.  Make sure you've saved them if you've got some.  I have.  I'm sure they'll come in useful in the near future.  

[Darrin]

Why would I trust Wiki for a legal opinion?

Why would we trust someone who posts pictures of a factory in Germany?

Barry's "Legal advice" is probably some divorce lawyer who hangs out at the same golf club as he does.

[Darrin]

Well, contrary to popular belief we actually DO have some factories left here. ;-)

LOL.  That wasn't quite what I meant...  

[Darrin]

Moderators are still entitled to opinions, even if they should know better when and how to word them.

As for the crux of your argument, in my experience, moderator decisions are always called into question on forums like this, no matter how even-handed you try to be.

If we could all try to keep a bit more civil whenever our favourite pet hate subject crops up, we'd all get on fine.

Surely deliberate "trolling" is against the rules.

If so, it is easy to class Dammy's continuing posts praising C-USA as the Second Coming while ignoring their past actions as a deliberate attempt to provoke the members of Amiga.org.

All Golden was doing was pointing this out, so his actions were well within what I would expect from the moderation staff.

[Darrin]

+1,000,000

I am afraid we are horribly outnumbered though and no one will listen to reason, unless the silent majority start chipping in and asking for the disruptive dozen to cool it.  Then maybe the moderators will start doing more to cool off the hot heads.

You really worry me with your ignorance of the facts.

[Darrin]

And what facts would those be?

Thank you for confirming the problem.

The facts have been "in your face" since they first appeared and yet you can't acknowledge them.

I'm beginning to worry that this level of ignorance you display is deliberate.  Would you mind clarifying your relationship with C-USA just to put my mind at rest?  Are you in regular contact privately with C-USA staff?  Are you therefore actually assisting them on the forums?

I am just commenting on what I see as destructive to this forum site and as far as I can tell, the CUSA haters are doing more harm than good.  In fact, CUSA wouldn't get half the attention it does here if it weren't for the children that can't control themselves and feel compelled to comment negatively in every thread that even mentions CUSA instead of just letting the topic scroll into oblivion where it belongs.

There you go again.  What are these "C-USA Haters" you speak of?  I think you mean the victims of personal attacks by C-USA or those who dare to point out any irregularities in their posts.

Who is pulling your strings?

I am well aware of CUSA's past transgressions and mistakes.  I am more keenly aware of the constant stream of whining and childish behavior that goes on here in opposition to CUSA.

Yet you ignore the "constant stream of whining and childish behavior that goes on here" by C-USA staff.  Why is this?

The previous actions of CUSA don't justify the continuing crap that is posted here EVERYDAY!  Grow up!

I suggest you grow up little man.  What's your agenda at AmigaWorld.net?  Looking forward to banning me there?

You insult us by calling us "children" and "haters" while your master laughs into his wallet.

Don't try and take the moral high ground, you're 6' under and still digging.

[Darrin]

So your line of thinking goes something like this: "Not enough people posting agree with me, but of course I'm right so there must be more people who don't post who agree with me than those who do post"

There is no "silent majority".


@Darrin,
After reading some of Amigadave's more recent posts I think he's just some kind of control freak - and I don't mean self-control.

I do worry at times.

I know I went through my more "militant" phase many years ago (the less said about my posts on ANN the better), but, as you point out, this whole "I'm right and everyone else is a ****" attitude sucks.

You post here a lot and I don't agree with everything you post, but you'll be hard pushed to find me attacking you for it because you state your position quite clearly and back it up with your personal opinions.

Dave's one-sided attacks on "haters" just because they disagree with his personal agenda is a worrying stance for a would-be moderator to be taking.  It's a shame, because Dave is a really nice guy on other subjects (probably because I don't disagree with him on other subjects).

[Darrin]

:bump:

Has Dammy hacked your account?

[Darrin]

For good reason.
The fur is really flying overseas on this one. Heh.

enjoy

#6

So, did C-USA fail to pay their $250,000 to Asiarim/Commodore Corp/whatever they're called this week and thus deprive them of funds?  Is this the same C-USA that wants us to pay them in advance for new hardware?  Are they still entitled to even use the Commodore name or will that need to be renegociated?

It is all very confusing.

[Darrin]

Anything business related confuses the crap out of me. Wish there was just a simple explanation for it all lol.

Business "red tape" was created by lawyers to keep them working.  

[Darrin]

I've consulted with numerous people regarding Commodore history since the war began between Yeahronimo and Tulip.
Yes, it's confusing, because the news reports and the truth are at odds. The whole thing started out dirty and it's ending up dirty.
Names become confusing, not just because they change them, but also because there is often a "company" name responsbible for so-called daily business and a different "licensing" name operating simultaneously for just that purpose.
Example:Asiarim-daily business (lol) and Commodore Licensing B.V. (recently declared bankrupt) responsible only for the licensing end.
Fact is if all documentation is correct, the same man was in charge of Yeahronimo, CIC, Reunite, Asiarim etc.
I am extremely suspicious of Commodorecorp and their resuscitated website as well as the information posted ON it just days ago.
I reserve the right to change my opinion, but I see a fight going on to hold onto the IP and licensing rights...and it ain't pretty.

Until I see a press release regarding outcome in the court, I'm very wary of what I read anywhere else on people's "corporate" websites.

#6

Thanks for that little summary.  Keep up the good work reporting on this "mess" and try not to go mad understanding it.  

It sounds like a clear case of companies within companies moving money around so that only a few people know where it is and nobody knows when chunks of it go missing.