AMIGA NEEDS YOUR HELP

[Starke]

OK, No more silly postings, only suggestions of how to help, or what you think should be done.
If you think Amiga should so something, say it here.

Here are my suggestions and thoughts so far, that may help our beloved platform.

-Email both companies(everyone in all amiga forums)once every two weeks??

-Try to find other companies to back Amiga, give them reasons why

-Maybe donate(when the time is right??) $2 when Amiga starts acting upon the community and what the amiga community want.

-What should Amiga Inc, Hyperion do?

I think perhaps:

-They should make AMiga OS for pc platforms, and that one can use any other software on it from any other platform.

Thats it for now, I havent had enough time yet to think of more, but then, we are the Amiga community here, so Im sure we're all gonna help eachother to MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I dont wanna debate this, you can either help me, and maybe we work as a team and help eachother, or you can simply leave. YOU ALL love your amiga, and I miss using mine at day in day out, (but i still use it)SO lets do this, one more time, give it our all, and who knows, maybe one of us is smart enough to pull it off better than the rest of us.

THAT IS what I think, this is for real, I do wanna try and make something happen.

Anyones help, ideas, suggestions, or even actions towards Amiga inc or hypewrion, or even managing to find ways to convince other big companies to help, would be
GREATLY appreaciated.

Thats it,

there you have it, an open forum than can go on for a few years, and hopefully during the next few years we see an uprising of some sort, as well as seeing Amiga actually holding its own against the other platforms.

Cheers  8-)

[Starke]

OK:

One more thing I just thought of, maybe in a weeks time, I should have something on paper to write to them by then, I will notify AMiga inc of my posting here, and let them know that If they want donations and a backing from their Amiga community, they are going to have to listen to us and listen to what we want.

Just an afterthought.

 8-)

EDIT - I forgot to say that, anyone who can give links or information on what would help this, is welcomed.
Also
I dont mind your thoughts on this, I just am trying to avoid negativity, if we all start thinking positive about this, it is more likely that we will succeed as a team, rather than a man and his Amiga mates helping him out.

[Starke]

Dear WACCON:

You are a really nice person, unlike many on this site, youve actually given me an insight of what may need to be done here.

AND:

I thank you for this.

Curious, Do you think if we got Hyperion to work with Amiga Inc, instead of having their own agenda, that this would help severely to get good systems and good products again, whereby programmers will even want to use an Amiga for it??

Ideas:
Tell me, what solid ideas do you think we may be able to advise them of/about?

Linux:
I thought Amiga was relatively easy to use, but you make an excellent point with the programming. Your right, I will continue to watch this posting, and see what others, and you have to say further, Until I then proceed to make a few formal letters, that I may show here to the Community before sending.

Maybe somehow, I can get a lot of Amiga users to sign it electronically.

Anyway, that'll be a bit of later stage.

Sorry, Not sure about the bottom bit here, but I think what your saying is, Amiga shouldnt have to downgrade themselves just to make sales, but rather come up with something totally fresh to the computing world??

Any feedback on this mate is very appreciated, also, if in the meantime you've come up with your own Ideas, post em.

Cheers
 8-)  8-)  8-)  8-)

[Starke]

Framiga:
Flashlab:

Sorry mate, Is the edit Ive done on my last posting better?

Thanks.

And I did not intend to insult anyone. Unless I felt the need to defend.

And Ive been trying to look outside the square, and actually come up with ways to make this BIG, and make it happen again.

Cheers

 8-)  8-)

[Starke]

xaccrocheur:

Are you being serious??

Did you have any other suggestions on my other ideas, or on Waccons post???

Kind Regards

Amiga man

[Starke]

EvilGuy:

Not sure on this one, as I had bigger plans For Amiga in general, when things start going good again, that is.

I'll keep your thought in mind though, but I still really like Waccons informative information.

Cheers bud

 8-)  8-)

[Starke]

Dear Wayne,

That is just my point, it shouldnt need Amiga hardware to run it.
After all, as far as I know, even the Mac os Is on a PC based hardware.

On the topic, why doesnt Amiga or Hyperion, or bloody damn well whoever, including cloanto if he wants to, make the OS4 or OS5, or whatever OS may come in future, make it available on normal PC hardware, as a standalone operating system??

And In doing so, allow it to run PC software like macromedia, adobe, and other leading brands, atleast then we may see a slight fluctuance in the market again, maybe even to the point where Amiga starts to gain popularity.

Nothing against you, but Waccon was absolutely right in what he said, I think he is a smart person, or she.

And maybe we can still find ways to help eachother out as a whole, to get new Computers, software or whatever the future holds.

For example, maybe we start trying to help AROS, and view it as the new Amiga, and pis off Amiga Inc. After all, isnt AROS also working on AMiga OS's? Or is it Hyperion thats taken over OS4, and AROS will not be able to update any of the Amiga OS's in future???

We should really all start thinking about this, I really believe it is possible, as do my mates, unfortunately, unlike my mates, and most people, I lack some technical skills, as well as communication skills, so it isnt easy for me to express exactly what I need to say, be it on screen, or in person.

This is where I am lucky for my mates to help, but the bigger problem is, to actually retrieve help from this site, as so far, Ive only really had Waccon, gertsy, reddwarfer, derringer,stopthegop and on occasion no fast mem helping me to try and succeed in this. Thats not too flash, considering this site probably has like hundreds of members.

Anyway, Thank you for saying what you did, but I was wondering if you even looked at your whole site, to see if anything was new, since last night wayne, and its not a posting.

Im here to stay, and I am going to continue finding ways, I am a positive person, always have been, and anything that I have tried for, well, lets just say Ive always found ways to succeed.

cheers

and goodnight peoples 8-)  8-)

[Starke]

MUCKER:

You are an awesome person, I like what youve said throughout this whole thread, and I think your right. It is possible for Amiga to come back good enough to keep themselves steady for a long time coming, if they play their cards right.

And I think it is possible in future, for them to overrun the home scenario at a later stage in their existance.

Thank you for supporting the cause, and with telling how it is, rather than telling me your dreams.

Thank you for also saying exactly what Ive been trying to say this whole time. That we can have Amiga rise again, if we all play it smart, and if we manage for any company supporting or creating things for Amiga to play it smart.

Cheers 8-)  8-)

Maybe we can team up at a later stage to work out ways to help Amiga, wether it be through AROS, or amiga inc

[Starke]

ALEWIS:

Wake up fatigue kills. as does being negative on life.

I am in reality, I can see some type of light here, I can see Amiga making it, they do still have a good OS, but they can so improve on it and make it even better than the rest. Its just a question of, whether or not Amiga Inc, AROS, Hyperion or whomever, actually decided to go full monty, that this will happen.

I am not in an Illusion, maybe you are, But Mucker said it, and still people refuse to wake up, and want to live in their dream world of classics, rather than wanting bigger and better, and trying to looks for way for this to happen.

WACCON even mentioned excellent points, but still, none of you listen to it, its like you read it, and it isnt transfering to your brains.

Cheers. 8-)  8-)

And in all seriousness, I know what is and isnt possible, and I know, Anything is possible in this world. Even bill gates knoew that at the time, everyone thought he wasnt in reality, but look at him now.

SO I suggest all in doubt here, wake up, and accept the possibilities, and drive on them, rather than driving on our classics and history. Lets make the future herre, together.

[Starke]

@Opposition:
@Alliance:

We should all work together here.

I have come to a slight conclusion on a topic discussed here,

I believe it is time to support AROS, they seem to be willing to read my email, unlike Amiga Inc who hasnt even touched it yet.

Either way, after reading up various sources on the net, Ive decided that our Amiga come back, may well rely on AROS more so than Amiga Inc. Also, I believe we could also support Hyperion, the Belgium company seems to be more intact and resposive to make things happen for Amiga.

Heres a link that got me thinking even further about AROS.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/1076/amicomm.html

MAYBE:
In time and in future, we will be able to support Amiga inc also, when they start to listen, after many users that will be emailing them.
I am also trying to get Hyperion, not to fight and put out Amiga for good, but rather to either put Amiga Inc out for good and Buy the name and support the name along with AROS, and to let AROS continue on Amiga and Amiga's future.

While Im at it, Ive also come to realise other possibilties, which I will not post yet, as I dont want to get everyones hopes up yet, Until I get some more feedback.

Cheers  8-)  8-)

Your Amiga Man, and his buds, with some Amiga.org supporters, who shall try harder to succeed as the days go by.

[Starke]

People:

You will probably alreay know these two sites, but I believe supporting them is supporting Amiga more so than Amiga inc. I have found out not to support Amiga inc, as they support bill gates, I DONT WANT THAT.

So support true AMigians, here they are:

http://aros.sourceforge.net/

http://entertainment.alinea-computer.de/seiten/spiele_uk.php
(the same site, different part)
http://www.alinea-computer.de/catalog/index.php?cPath=42_44&osCsid=981652242f9a68b1789f8b50a1a45470

Cheers.
 8-)  8-)

I will keep you posted on things.

[Starke]

Dear People,

I am sure most of you are aware of all these sites, if not, have a browse:

http://gurumeditation.se/

http://www.ggsdata.se/index-en.html

http://www.ggsdata.se/index-en.html

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/amiga-shop.php

http://bitbybitsoftwaregroup.com/index.php
(this one, if you read through this, no wonders we dont have OS4 fully yet, with all the gizmos, heres a line from what I read:
As great as the Amiga Community is and as generous as some of it's members truly are, there just are not enough people coming forward to purchase OS4 software that is still in the works or making donations to its development.)

http://www.amiga-news.de/en/
(I liked the Amiga network tab)

http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn?lp=de_en&&url=http://www.amigaspeed.de.vu

http://www.abime.net/

http://www.amigaworld.net/

http://utilitybase.com/

http://www.intuitionbase.com/

MMMmmmm, so much for the AMIGA community saying that the AMiga is totally dead, look at the websites I found in under 1 minute.

Just in case you guys didnt read the other section, I just thought Id let the Amiga people enjoy some of these sites.

Loads of stuff can be found on the net, and not all of the Amiga software and so on, is old and out of date totally, just most, but not all. So I think there is a chance even moreso now.

Cheers 8-)  8-)

And keep supporting your Amiga guys.

[Starke]

If any of you still want another place to get Amiga merchandise:

http://software.alinea-computer.de/seiten/partner_uk.php

Cheers

 8-)  8-)