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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« on: January 17, 2006, 09:57:36 PM »
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I think the first thing you need to get is a program like Directory Opus for managing your files quickly. v4.12/4.17 is now freeware - it's a really nice bit of software.


Actually it's gone all the way up to 4.21 =)
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 10:09:29 PM »
"Chickening out", "you're the one that started it all" and "now we all can see your true face"?

Not that I am part of the previous flaming, but what I quoted above is OBVIOUSLY written in a way to provoce. The way I see it the only mature thing would be to not comment the whole issue any more. To keep commenting on it is just to keep feeding the fire. Feeding the fire is immature. Not bothering at all, would be the mature thing to do right now (and that's just my point of view, not saying that it is some kind of not to be questioned fact).

So, drop it, both of you!  :-D
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2006, 10:26:19 PM »
AmiDude: Just drop it. People can read the thread for themselves and see what happened if that is what they feel like doing. Just don't be a part of the flamewar and it will die out eventually because there is no more fuel to be found.

Essential apps:
MCP - Somewhat essential to me, partly because of some of the hacks to be found in it. They can prove to be really nice, if you just take you time browsing them all through.
FBlit / FScreen - If you're not running on RTG FBlit or FScreen will help speed up things quite a bit, actually, an absolute essential.
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2006, 02:39:43 AM »
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Oh, and don't forget killer commercial apps like Deluxe Paint 5 (AGA compatible) and Wordworth 7!


Do not forget about Brilliance 2. There's not that much that Brilliance 2 can't do that DPaintV can (maybe all the animation options, haven't animated in Brilliance 2 at all, actually). But Brilliance 2, on the other hand, can do much that DPaint can't. But I haven't used them much lately, so don't take my word on it. Anyways, Brilliance 2 is worth checking out, better or not.

In the end, I guess it is really a matter of taste.
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Re: Essential Workbench apps?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2006, 11:35:38 AM »
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And yes you can do animation like in DPaint, but Brilliance have better options/effects for this than DPaint.


Oh, nice, did not know that since I've never tried using animation in Brilliance 2. Though, do you also have all that pseudo-3D-tweaking of brushes? Making them rotate, zoom and other stuff in X-Y-Z, and so on?


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Anyone know of any apps like this on Windows or Mac? or even Linux?


Actually I gave it a go, together with a friend, and tried everything we could get our hands on, demos, commercial applications, freeware programs... but no luck whatsoever. My friend bought pixel magazines which held tutorials on how to make those isometric pixel graphics which one often sees on webpages (you know, eBoy: http://www.eboy.com/eboy), but HECK! Don't you know it? THEY USED FREAKING PHOTOSHOP OR PAINT SHOP PRO TO DO THAT IN THEIR TUTORIALS! And they seemed so PROUD of it. Ooooh, you know, change the mode from RGB to Indexed Colour, make a grid (which you can't follow with the help of a brush showing exatly where the "pixels" will be plotted), do this and that and then that and some other things and then finally you can do some pixel grapchis wihtout the proper use of brushes and absolutely no way of actually seeing what you are doing until the dots have been plotted (and often just slightly not where it was to be plotted. Photoshopwas the worst but Paint Shop Pro wasn't much better).

Anyways, point is. The reason for my friend being so eager to find a Brilliance / DPaint alike app for the PC was that he saw me play around in those programs. He saw how I in minutes, sometimes seconds, did that isometric pixel graphics with ease, never really having tried to do it before, much thanks to the great use of brushes, grids, math / colour modes and more. If it hadn't been for him toying around in these two programs after seing me do it, he would probably have considered them tutorials in the magazines of great help. Now he laughs at them, because, really, they looked like nothing but: "HEY, we have found a WAY! Not that these applications EVER had this in mind, but WE FOUND A WAY TO DO IT! Now everyone uses this way, just like everyone is using Windows, without ever questioning if there is a better way.". OH. MY. GOSH.

Anyways.

Grafx2 can always be used. It's an Windows app and a DPaint / Brilliance clone. Although it isn't finished, very buggy and it seems it won't be developed any further.

Oh, and the latest eBoy poster: http://www.eboy.com/image/MSH_koelnposter_29t (it would be great to know what apps he have used, and how long it takes to do a poster such as this one).

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