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Re: DiscreetFX announcement, any news ?
« on: November 05, 2006, 09:24:56 PM »
Don't hold your breath mate.

I asked them some VERY simple questions over on EAB, and the summary of the response would be....."SFA".

"....it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
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Re: DiscreetFX announcement, any news ?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 12:29:53 PM »
Dude, I asked the simple questions, your answers were as hollow and hopeless as any would-be saviour who has stepped up, tripped and crashed to the floor in the past 11 years.

No plan = commercial death.

I know precisely what is required to make a go of this - having been heavily involved in taking a CE brand from market share of less than 1% to #1 and 17% market share.  Even made a profit - and we had serious backing, a brand that had only been dead in the water for a few years (not a decade), and hundreds of millions in R&D behind us.


Oh - ATL advertising budget of $6M and a trade co-op budget of $2M didn't hurt.


Whatta you got?


And seriously, announcing a proposed buyout of a private company before even entering serious negotiations?  What's that about?
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Re: DiscreetFX announcement, any news ?
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2006, 07:20:28 AM »
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Our involvement with the Amiga community would help the brand not harm it. But, you are welcome to your opinion and sharing it makes for great debate.


How do you help or harm a brand that is dead, buried, and decomposed beyond recognition?
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Re: DiscreetFX announcement, any news ?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 12:50:54 PM »
Yup, there's definitely one born every minute.


Ask "most people" about the Amiga, and they'll wonder why you're bothering them about a Spanish girlfriend.

It's a niche zealot community - right up there with people who are obsessive fans of "Space: Above and Beyond" - and we all know it's going nowhere.

YES I love using the Amiga.

YES it is the OS of preference for me.

But do I seriously every expect to see an "Amiga" on my office desk?  Nope, not ever.  It has gone the way of Beta video and a host of other superior, but poorly marketed technologies.

Discreet FX, for all their posturing and constant "our movie Oil Change will feature Amigas yadda yadda yadda" haven't a hope in hell of raising sufficient capital to do anything even remotely effective with the brand, outside (perhaps) a tiny niche hard-core video market.  And what good is that to most Amiga Users?


"Let's all support them....." in what, exactly?  They can't even answer VERY simple questions about their plans and resources - questions that in no way compromise them commercially.

Apple, with all the resources at their disposal, still can't manage to snatch a tenth of the PC market.  You might resurrect a tiny sector of the former Amiga community, and convert some Linux nerds, but that's about it - and that isn't a market.

It's a cottage industry.
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Re: DiscreetFX announcement, any news ?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 08:30:14 AM »
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USA is full of money, and that's all. Jens and Dennis are from Europe, Elbox people too, DCE, Amiga france....

Amiga failed because of bad Commodore management, Sinclair (Spectrum) was very succesfull (2 million sold units) and that is more than all Amiga models...



Bzzzzt, wrong.

Over 3 million Amigas had been sold by 1994.
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Re: DiscreetFX announcement, any news ?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 09:25:20 PM »
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And what about The Lord of the Rings then? That's quite an impressive movie hardly to be called hollow. Or maybe that's because it's recorded in New Zealand based on a book by a British author :lol:



Bankrolled and distributed by an American studio?

It could well be that American movies are only successful because of mega marketing budgets - or it could be that they just happen to make the kind of movies that most people enjoy.

I dunno about you, but if I reduce some of the most successful "foreign" films to their base concepts, I get this:

"Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" = Poofs on a bus.

"Jindabyne" = Pretentious crap.

"Life is beautiful" = Death Camp Slapstick.

"Swan in Love" = Jeremy Irons roots yet another underage girl.

"Waterland" = Jeremy Irons....well, you get the picture.


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