real amiga vs winuae

[hooligan]

Considering your kids, WinUAE isn't that much user-friendly. And you need to start Windows with it.

I simply cannot think of a more user-friendly way than doubleclicking Winuae-icon and pressing Start-button.

[hooligan]

Now take a good look at this screenshot, and tell me what the difference is between this screenshot and that what you just described.

Now don't take me wrong, I do like WinUAE, I like the options given there. But a 'noob' doesn't know what these options mean, so it's extremely confusing and 'hostile' in the eyes of a 'noob'. Moreso because these options need to be set, kickstarts need to be located (even at the time a 'noob' even knows what a kickstart is, he has a hell of a job knowing how to get one).

Now if you were talking about Amigakit or AmigaForever, then it'd be another story.

Obviously I was talking about a ready configured system, one that the dad fixed for the kids. Then if the dad can't configure Winuae, I suggest to keep feeding bootable gamedisks on a real Amiga.

[hooligan]

Jose made an unrelated post without seeing your posts that just happened to blow you arguments out of the water: he uses his Amiga for his music because it boots faster than windows.

On the other hand why even switch off PC? Just turn on energysaving on harddrive and monitor, and your machine is all set in a couple seconds by moving mouse. No need to use sleepmode.

The same goes for Amiga aswell, but I wouldn't risk breaking my dear Amiga by keeping it on 24/7. The riskfactor is just too big.

[hooligan]

"My mom was made in Germany so she can eat your mom!"

Ok, now you are scaring me

[hooligan]

The disappointing thing for me has been the "pack-mentality" of the pro-PC camp to resort to personal insults, and to belittle the arguments of the pro-Amiga camp on the basis that those arguments are trivial because these uniquely Amiga advantages don't matter to them in their own computing use.

Its vice versa also. And I somehow do understand some of the "pro-pc"-people here, its a bit hard not to belittle the arguments of the "pro-amiga"-people as these "unique amiga advantages" are ancient history and has no use whatsoever in todays computing. And has not been for a decade.

The biggest "unique" feature is old playable games and thats it, and even that is made possible through emulation.

[hooligan]

@stefcep2

Frankly I don't see whats the big fuss about boot-times. My MorphOS booted in a few seconds, WinXP in maybe 20 seconds.. I have never been in so much hurry it has actually bothered me.

You have to remember AmigaOS/AROS/MorphOS lacks hundreds(thousands?) of things found in modern OS's. If AmigaOS wouldn't be 10 years behind and it would have a larger userbase there would probably be the same problems you mentioned. But that never happened so lets leave it at that.

I do however agree you with the registry, the registry was one of the lousiest ideas ever brought to computing.

I had fun with MorphOS, the OS itself was excellent and I enjoyed using it as a hobby.. but in the end the lack of proper software meant I was always switching to Windows to do the things I wanted to do.

[hooligan]

PROVE IT.
Anyone can state what comes up in his head.  It takes a brain to prove stuff.

The current marketsituation pretty much proves it, doesn't it? In my eyes it tells not very many people find Amiga of any serious use.

[hooligan]

I was asking you to prove your statement: these "unique amiga advantages" are ancient history and has no use whatsoever in todays computing.

This was just a speculation on your part.

I was not speculating. I was telling a cold hard fact. Let's turn it all around, if AmigaOS has so much good in it and is so superior in so many areas, why it hasn't found even a nichemarket for itself, while many OS-projects that started later with less to begin with has succeeded in some way? Partly its of course by bad management (lightly said) but theres something else to it: time. Time has passed, needs have changed. Even if there was plenty of hardware at decent prices it still wouldn't help AmigaOS to rise from the pit it sunk itself years back.

To get back to topic, this is why I think emulation is the way to go, especially because of the superb emulation WinUAE provides. It's a simple and costeffective way for many people to hobby Amiga and keep even some attachment to it, and still do the important things with proper tools. Not to mention those who really WANT to use AmigaOS, but can't be arsed to buy uberexpensive underpowered hardware.

[hooligan]

You didn't answer the point and just made a declaration that it's a "cold hard fact".  I wasn't speaking of the OS.  You are PC-fanatic so obviously, you prefer people use emulators on PCs than Amiga hardware.  But I guess you can go one step further and state that it's better to use PC native mode for a particular software than emulated version since it's more efficient, but I guess first you want them to start using PC hardware.

Me? PC-Fanatic? :-)

Been Amigist for almost 20 years, longtime Pegasos1 and 2 owner (which I sadly had to sell as I was going bankcrupt) and on top of that I am still moderating at Morphzone.org, been since it was born. You better come up with something else than that bull, mate

[hooligan]

@Karlos

Amen brother.