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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« on: November 26, 2003, 09:39:56 PM »
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Careful with theoretical performance claims when practical performance indicates otherwise.


It's a matter of opinion... practical and/or theoretical.
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 10:27:30 PM »
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Opinions has limits in regards to practical results.


That's right, and that's why the whole dream world of x86 being somewhat an unchallenged speed-demon quickly hits the wall or reality.

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Refer to the removal of Apple’s “world’s fastest PC” marketing campaign in certain European countries.


The mistake of the plural word "countries" stretches the truth just a bit since this only affected the UK region.  Of course with anything advertising, pretty much everyone is full of cow dunk.  Take Microsoft's "Do more with less" TV ad campaign, we all know that's misleading.  But you don't see me calling up my local TV station requesting to take it off the air, because I (and many other common sense folk) take anything shown on television with a grain of salt (even the G5 commercial, though it was cute).
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2003, 11:40:54 PM »
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It’s a similar app vs similar app.


If they're going to do such, they might as well have run Adobe Premiere -vs- Apple's Final Cut Pro.  Premiere is a dead product as far as the Mac is concerned.
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2003, 11:46:05 PM »
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Refer to Scotland and England in the Rugby world cup....


Still the UK at the end of the day!

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Windows 2003 Server is a lot easier to use compared to Linux (e.g. Red Hat 9, Mandrake 9). The overkill of MS Windows 2003 Server is a lot easier to use compared to Linux (e.g. Red Hat 9, Mandrake 9). The overkill of MS Wizards in Win2K3 made it dead easy to maintain a server (in my POV).


I'm talking about the cost aspect they're claiming, not the Wizard hell that is Windows!

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The X86 world doesn’t have to compete with Apple’s "reality distortion field" (TM).


Obviously they must, or they wouldn't raise such a stink about it, now would they?!
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2003, 12:17:11 AM »
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Note that Adobe Premiere is not optimised on AMD64 i.e. needs Windows XP AMD64 Edition(currently in beta stage).

Both systems are running on legacy modes.


Yeah but they both  can run 32-bit mode, so just run a benchmark with FCP -vs- Premiere -vs- Avid Express (on both systems) to make it more fun  :-D
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2003, 01:24:23 AM »
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F you can offer free licenses for these programs why not mail them to MacWorld/PCWorld? Make sure it’s available for both Win32 and MacOS…


If they can't afford licenses for those titles, then they might as well shut down the presses.  Furthermore, these people get those licenses for free just to do reviews on them!  They have a problem with this thing called tunnel vision.  Instead of being creative on the benchmarks, they just follow suit with the other one nighters!
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2003, 01:28:48 AM »
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2003, 01:40:55 AM »
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Note that these presses include MacWorld i.e. MacOS orientated press. The overriding factors for PCWorld is the availability the similar applications for Win32 and MacOS.


The MacWorld and PC World come from the same publisher.  Excuse NOT valid!
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2003, 01:45:43 AM »
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Secondly, it doesn’t cover dual Opteron 246 @2.0 on VIA K8T800..


We live not in a perfect world.  How often do they update the G4/G5 benches... see my point?

Opteron is targeted mostly at the server market anyways.
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2003, 01:49:59 AM »
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Post the said benchmark IF it proves your case.


I don't have to prove any case.  You're the one whining about software app availability/access for these mags, not me!
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2003, 02:34:34 AM »
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That’s what they said in their limitations page.


How could there be limitations running benchmarks between a Mac running Final Cut Pro versus a PC running Premiere?  The only limitation here is poor execution from journalism itself by either magazine.

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I would like to add that the Barefeet.com's link has PS7 benchmarks (IF one follows the embedded links).


I followed the links as well as that I keep up with Barefeats other benchmarks as well.
 

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Re: In search for info on PPC cpus
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2003, 03:47:27 AM »
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Why did you state "At least give the PS benches:"?


Because CineBench was your focus.

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IF one should apply the same logic i.e. why not run UT2003 on Mac and QuakeIII on the PC since they are both FPS?

The issue is about running the same/similar code base in both of the platforms. Both are running similar code on legacy mode.


Not always... I personally like seeing competing applications benchmark as well (games excluded).  Like fxPaint versus Photoshop versus Gimp, etc...


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Should one bring in Newtek’s Video Toaster for Windows?

What about the following video editing suites;
1. Matrox Rt2500 Video Editing Suite.
2. Sonic Foundry Vega 4.0.
3. Pinnacle Studio (what ever version or edition)
4. Ulead's Media Studio 7 and Video Studio 7
5. Cyberlink PowerDirector
6. 'etc'.

Why not have an all-out expensive Video editing shootout?


Now that's what I'm talkin' about  :-P

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IF Apple ever ports their MacOS X iTune software to Win32 (i.e. not using Music Match) then the issue is completely different.


Where have you been, Apple already ported iTunes to Windows 2k/XP...

http://www.apple.com/itunes/