No CD-ROM Icon Appearing WB 3.1

[hamtronix]

OK. The saga continues...

Hardware:

A2000. GVP SCSI Controller. Yamaha CD/RW CDROM.

Software:

WB 3.1 . AsimCDFS 3

Story:

I wont get into to the whole thing. But I had gotten a bad diskette with AsimCDFS 3 on it. So I tried using DiskSalv to get the data. Which it seemed to do just fine. I made another disk and it seemed to install fine.

My CD0: appears correct when I use software to make sure its on the correct SCSI address, etc. It claims to be mounted. And I can see it in the AsimCDFS Preferences. But I get nop CDROM icon on WB. And when I have a disk in the CDROM (one I made only ISO 9660) it doesnt appear and I cant use CLI to get to it.

Any help?

[hamtronix]

Ross1 wrote:
Have you checked to make sure that the CD0 driver is in the System/Dev's drawer. If not it should be located in the Storage drawer.

Yep. AsimCDFS put the files into the appropriate places and I went back through and checked that they were put there.

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krize wrote:
Just try to reinstall it, make sure you select the right device also.

did that. didnt change anything. Could using DiskSalv have given me some corrupted files? If so, would it be OK to replace them with files from an older version?

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amiga92570 wrote:
One other thing, did you use novice setup when installing? there is a bug in installer if you use anything but novice setup.

Yep. It gives a warning which made me aware of that. Is there a way uninstall it through the software ?

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Matt_H wrote:
What version is your gvpscsi.device? Older ones are kinda buggy, especially with removable media.

How would I go about finding that file and determining what version it is? I jsut looked over the SYS: and couldnt locate it. I thought it would be in DEVS: but no luck.

I just did a complete re-format and fresh install of WB 3.1 and just AsimCDFS3.5. It still appears to be OK (Its recognized, no errors, etc.) but I get no disk icon whether a CD is in or not. I checked the jumpers on my CDROM and they are correct...

Any new help?

[hamtronix]

CannonFodder wrote:

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devs:
version gvpscsi.device


No GVPSCISI.DEVICE existed in DEVS: Yet again, everything is fine except the ability to read CDROMs (so its kind of useless). I moved a file that was called GVPSCSI.AMHD from the floppy to DEVS: and renamed it GVPSCSI.DEVICE, it didnt do anything.

Would appreciate any more help. Im getting close to being at a loss...

[hamtronix]

Still trying to get this fixed:

Another question - After I boot up and then warm reset and then hold both mouse buttons down to get to the pre-boot selection screen should I see CD0: listed in the choose boot device screen

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alexh wrote:

hamtronix wrote:
No GVPSCISI.DEVICE existed in DEVS:

It is in the ROM on the SCSI card. It gets loaded into RAM on boot.

Open a CLI window and type "version gvpscsi.device" and it will tell you what ROM version you have.

Thanks! I was wondering where the heck it was.

It is version 4.5

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Matt_H wrote:
@ alexh

Hmmmm.... Well, the old 4.5 ROM driver would start the boot process and 4.15 wouldn't get kicked in until the startup-sequence hit BindDrivers. I don't know if that would cause a problem. I'll check a GVP manual later.

EDIT: Oops, yeah, right there on the site:

To use the BindDrivers driver, you have to disable the ROM driver first.

@ hamtronix

Looks like you'll need 4.15 in ROM. These have been popping up on eBay a lot lately. Keep your eyes peeled.

That seems like a downgrade, shouldnt 4.5 be better than 4.15?

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Doobrey wrote:

hamtronix wrote:
That seems like a downgrade, shouldnt 4.5 be better than 4.15?

Nope. Version numbers aren't decimals, it's ., so revision 15 is newer than revision 5.

Ahh, thats good to know.

Can anyone explain why the CDROM will show up fine and mounted in any program that polls it yet the system wont recognize a valid CD when its in the drive?

I can see the card polling the device as well every 3 seconds so it must be getting something from the hardware. It also yells at me at reboot if I disconnect the drive so it knows that the actual hardware exists. This is the most confusing thing for me. if it didnt see the drive at all that would be one thing but this is strange to me.

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rkauer wrote:

hamtronix wrote:

Can anyone explain why the CDROM will show up fine and mounted in any program that polls it yet the system wont recognize a valid CD when its in the drive?

I can see the card polling the device as well every 3 seconds so it must be getting something from the hardware. It also yells at me at reboot if I disconnect the drive so it knows that the actual hardware exists. This is the most confusing thing for me. if it didnt see the drive at all that would be one thing but this is strange to me.

 Try a little AmigaDOS trick: with a CD on the device, open a shell and type:

 "DiskChange CD0:"

 Then quit the CLI. The Icon appears suddenly on WB screen?

Nope no icon.... thanks for the tip though, that may help later on.

Is there an alternative CD file system (preferably PD) that I can use to test the software side?

I am not tied to Asim , although it appears like a nice program. And I still would like an explanation about how it sees the drive but doesnt recognize CDs.

Also, the CD icon should be visible no matter if a CD is in or not correct? Or would it just pop up when media is inserted?

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Matt_H wrote:
@ hamtronix


Try upgrading gvpscsi and Asim to the latest versions before you throw in the towel.

Oh there will be no towel throwing! I am not going to copy every thing over by floppy... And I got the amiga to cause me problems since my life is way to easy apparently...

So does anyone have or know of anyone that has the 4.15 ROM for GVP SCSI? I guess I should post on marketplace too.

Yes, Asim seems to be a very nice package so if its one of the best Id rather keep it. and I have the manual and serial numbers registration cards... are those good anymore?

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number6 wrote:
@hamtronix

Yes, Asim seems to be a very nice package so if its one of the best Id rather keep it. and I have the manual and serial numbers registration cards... are those good anymore?

Another trick on OS3.1:
Open the hard drive toolbox and select the CD, assuming it shows there. Then exit the program. Does the icon appear?
In my case it did, prior to upgrading to the ROM update which addressed this issue.

Just tried this and not even my HD showed up in it. Nothing and all the buttons were ghosted. Any advice?

Thanks for all the help to everyone and please if anyone has any more I would love to hear it. You'd think there would be a way since the card can see it, and I will try anything at all to get it working.

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A4000_Mad wrote:
@ hamtronix
Click on the 'Icon' tab and then change the line SCSI_DEVICE_NAME= trekmagic.device

to

SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=gvpscsi.device

Click on 'Save' and hopefully you will be able to see your hard drive and CDrom when you reactivate HDToolBox :-)

I did this and both my SCSI devices showed up.

Now for the interesting part the CD drive appears as status unknown. no drive type information just the scsi ID and the LUN. does this clue anyone in on fixing the problem?

[hamtronix]

Super Duper USA thanks to A4000 Mad! If my country invades yours you can always crash at my place!

In any case - after attempting everything to no avail I think it will be easier to assume the CDROM is bad and buy some alternatives to test it with. If anyone has a 50 pin SCSI CDROM they want to sell me please PMAIL otherwise it will be Ebay.

If that doesnt work I will attempt the GVP SCSI ROM 4.15 .

In the meantime if anyone has any new ideas kick them on down as I recently became unemployed so it is me and the Amiga for a bit.

Thanks again to everyone who has helped or read! The community is wonderful.