I don't remember him. He grew more famous (infamous) later on. My mind was on other things that night. The woman I rode with had her vehicle puke and she had to have it towed back to Michigan. Her, her son, and I had to hitch a ride back to Michigan with Maurice Randall and Raymond Day. The problem was Maurice's vehicle was full because of the things he brought to the expo so we had to rent a Uhaul trailer to put his things in so we could fit in his station wagon. He was only going to Lansing so we had to arrange for someone to meet us there in the middle of the night.