AmigaUpdate, Objectivity Lost.

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@KennyR

"Webb, however some might like to think, was not being objective. He was being biased, and perhaps even intentionally offensive to something he doesn't like. Admittedly, posting this as a news item was not exactly objective either: I can guess it was a matter of outrage that someone of responsibility could write something so clearly outrageous. And on that level I can understand it. To make these things known as they are is always a good thing."

I still fail to understand why don't you consider objective... you know, you can be objective and against MOS (I'm not saying it has to be), you (all) fail to explain why he isn't objective, and because 100 of you say it isn't it doesn't mean you're right either...

"It didn't really matter that is was aimed at MOS. But this is a newsletter; can you imagine the outrage if the Genesi website demanded that A1s weren't allowed at AmiWest because they were "Teron CX linux boxes"? Or amithlon or UAE or AROS were demanded to be banned from Amiwest because AInc saying that they are "emulators done by pirates" in Club Amiga? Of course it would cause a storm. And rightly so."

Amithlon is an Amiga related as Cloanto WINUAE or as any legal WINUAE or UAE, as far as the user legally have the rights to be using AMIGAOS, just for itself *UAE isn't... see you weren't being objective... ;b

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bloodline:

Originality, they don't posess that...

where I said they behave differently from AmigaOS!? I do not even know why you make such a statement as... "Please stay out of technical disscusions unitl you have fully versed yourself with all the facts."

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@bloodline:
I never said they coulnd't or weren't doing the same things... don't put in my mouth...

PS-by the way I'm trying to make the AROS iso bootable, I burn the copy I found in your page, but after a while he starts seeking for the floopy... can you help me on that!?

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@bloodline:

I'll try to do that, If I still find any problem I'll go trought the usual channels

I do not have nothing against AROS or MOS BTW, I find them both excelent pieces of computer engeneering (they must, they are based on AmigaOS ;b ), what I can't stand is all this bitching... even because people never pick what was said to try to refute it, they always go the easier route  saying you're a troll, you're starting fud or you are a BAF... and this for me is sad.

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I'm not God neither I pretend to know everything, but on these days everyone seems to have or at least be taking some kind degree at bitching at anything that is against their opinion without substantially backing it up, only voice calling.

It's very well pointed by the Editor himself that the editorial and introduction are his thoughts and his opinions alone, and being as such they can't be anything else much less objective, despite having some justifications to back his way of thinking at least way more constructive then all the flames around here...

At least he's the first to agree that people do think different, that many will disagree with him, after all he voice his thoughts as an opinion and not as facts as many of you do, humility that what lacks in this community, this 'mine is bigger than yours' thing is destroying it, and I don't see how an 'objective' webmaster can put in a pro-genesi site such appeal for flaming.

I don't find any of the 'offences' having any substantial claims against what was said, at least I would like to ear from you on this specific subject: how the market will not fragment if auctions from both sides aren't taken by them or from the developers themselves...

If people can't talk the talks why to talk at all!?

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@Wayne
These are what I find the main points in Brad's editorial


> Editor's Thoughts and Introduction:

> We were left wondering about some attendees, however. We simply
> cannot understand what the MorphOS/Pegasos team was doing there.
> For that matter, we cannot understand what they are doing at any
> Amiga show.

> There are only two things, both bad, that can come out of the Genesi
> efforts:

> failure for Genesi or depletion of the Amiga market.

> If the Amiga community were huge, it could probably support an
> unauthorized clone system with no problems. That might even lead to
> additional software, since presumably more units would be sold.

> However, the Amiga market is quite small and all this pretend Amiga
> can do is fragment it. We can't understand why any Amiga supporter
> would  want  to encourage that.

> Obviously, there are people who don't agree with us. That's the way of
> the world, there will always be many opinions about most things.

> We only hope it works out well for everyone, especially Amiga.

> We also hope you enjoy this special issue.


As you see Wayne, it has opinion tags all marked all over him, what I do not understand is why shouldn't someone have the right to express himself even more when it is expressed so clearly that it's his own opinion, one certainly have right to use his opinion to fight for what he stands for, if that wasn't the case Princess Diana would be only a Princess, U2 would be just a group and so on...

BTW Wayne, calling "defender" instead of  "cheerleader" isn't any less offensive if the feeling still is the same...

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"There is very good reason why Brad Webb is being "attacked" here, but no good reason why he has to "attack" MorphOS or Genesi."

Yeah... I see them on one of the first posts where KennyR states:

"Even people not on the MOS side would have to admit that Webb's statements are what I'd expect from an average namefollower ann.lu troll.

Its small-minded intolerant idiots like that who are shrinking the Amiga, not companies who are actually producing hardware and software.

Webb, you win my arse of the year award."

The way this 'announcement' was made by Tahrgan was only to stirr up flames, and that's it...

BTW... what happened to all Targhan posts!?

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@ bhoggett:

When I ear BBRV, GreenBoy, Fleccy or Ben Hermans I know exactly what to expect from them, and I analise what they say, as for what Brad has said, I deal for the same way, I do not took it for granted, I took it as an opinion as it is...

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@Skyraker

They should be, they went through the semi final of uefa cup... ;b

PS- But still I'm from Sporting