Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)

[pierre]

I hope to the high heavens that OS5 is not just a new version of amiga anywhere... not the fist time a. inc used the name amiga in vain!  please please tell my this in not the plan.

[pierre]

Bill you say....
"In 2003 Amino began the sale of “all” of the Amiga assets to Itec and then KMOS. In the end, KMOS, Inc. purchased all of the assets of Amino Development (including the trademarks) in two transactions. KMOS, Inc. then changed their name to Amiga, Inc. (The quote from Garry Hare came from a time between the two transactions, when KMOS owned certain Amiga assets, but not the trademarks (yet), so it was true at the time. Once KMOS acquired the trademarks, the quote was no longer true.)

This was an asset purchase agreement, and once completed, Amiga, Inc. of Washington (which now owned nothing) closed its doors. Most of the employees accepted employment with the new company (three did not). For the sake of convenience in these answers, I will refer to Amiga in all of its incarnations as “Amiga,” but the Washington Amiga and the Delaware Amiga are unrelated."

soo all I can get out of this is that YOUR AMIGA inc. owns NOTHING,  it now all belongs to kmos.  Infact it sounds like YOUR amiga Inc was disolved!
do you now work for kmos? (renamed amiaga inc.)
If you got rehired there,then YES, you did quite a bit of a legal schuffle IMO.  

Please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes with marketing gobely goop.

When can we expect a NEW product from A Inc?
(I don't plan on supporting you like I did with amigaSDK ever again, so it must be GOOD to get my money)

You guys have done the WORST PR job I have EVER seen and will have to EARN trust in this community, as the old lies still hurt.  Don't expect me to treat you like you not just another upstart with a shaky bussiness plan (if any).  I seriously doubt you guys are makeing a $500.000 profit.

In Amiga terms you guys are newbees, let us know if you when you need help.

"OS4 dev. is up and rocking!"
mr. bill m. years before they even started.....

[pierre]

maybe Bill aiming high, problem is I don't think Bill and Co. have it in them.  They are Johnny come lately to the amiga. Not only that they have very low level bussiness skills. (disaster after disaster)
they have NO proof that this OS 5 is actualy being developed and I seriously doubt is better than morphOS. They have made a mess out of amiga Inc.  Having passed up every decent opertunity that came there way. Unless they deliver somting interesting sometime realy realy soon, I continue to think of amiga Inc/kmos as a big fat hinderence in the amiga world.

the way I see it is that hyperion at one time saw an oppertunity to take over the amiga OS, then they ran out of money and bill bailed them out. Well helped them out is a strong word for took an oppertunity to buy them out (when they where broke)... does it matter? they are both amatures.

See Bills not the kind of guy whos word you can trust, with him it's better to make him show you the goods.  Sorry Bill your credit is not good.

BTW what pathetic is not that sombody made a big deal about not being paid, but that you let that happen.  Also when you assets got sold, you know why that happend?  It did not happen becasue you where running a tight ship... think about it I bet you can figure out a reason that happend?  Anybody willing to give you money is a fool.

[pierre]

with all due respect.  6 -7 years later whe should have SOMETING?  Why waist more time?  They are not cutting it are they?  You want to buy into the next round of lies, go ahead I don't share your belife that amiag inc has any chance it pulling this off.
Just remeber, Bill showed up on 99 from the moon with big plan and no clue, now 7 years later he suddenly decided to make a stament and care about the community he just about demolished!

edit.
@wyane
what do you mean agenda, and who are you talking to?

I figured a bunch of you would flame me for not  buying into Bill's new chapter.

Show me the product (like genisi did) and I will respect you, at this point it would be foolish to do anything else.

I disagree with wayne that these questions where answered "straight forward", I don't even think it was the right questions.  I for one still think they are playing some kind of game.  IF being a sceptic and realist is my agenda o.k.  If my view does not fit withthe candy coated vision you wished for feel free to have your own view. Just don't get confused, I want to see progress and will be happy when I see it, just going to eb DOUBLE cautions with anything I hear Bill say.

[pierre]

@Legerdemain
"You don't have a clue as of what my beliefs are, so stop making it look like I have said something I haven't.

If you had read my earlier post you would have noticed that I said that I didn't really share the vision of the future that I got the impression that Bill McEven seemed to imply upon."

I never stated that I know you beliefs, sorry that you feel I puyt words into your mouth, I DID NOT.  These are MY views

"Besides, you have already decided that what you read is nothing but lies ('You want to buy into the next round of lies, go ahead'). I don't consider anything BEING a lie until it is proven so. What I believe, that is a completely different matter."

WRONG, Bill lied before, I used to trust him, now he needs proof, that my opinion.

The difference is that I respect your view and DISAGREE.  So what it a free world!

[pierre]

@wayne
I never called you a stuped sucker!  
Just becasue I have MY OWN OPINION and am not afraid  to post it does not mean you should riducule me!
BTW way wayne I mean why waist more time with Amiga Inc. Given the legal situation the evolution of hardware and software I dont think we realy need them any more...

I have moved on years ago, anything new AMIGA will just be a bonus, I just dont feel like sucking up to some CEO after he made a bunch of bad and IMO foolish decisions, why should I?


I will consider moving on, but most likely will hang around and share my view,  Like I said if he comes trough, I will make a public post stating that I was worng!  Tehn you guys can all shame me and I will take it.  Will you do the same if this does not happen?

[pierre]

@Legerdemain
what are you talking about?
I got the impression that you thought that there was a chance this was maybe going to happen...
If you dont belive that they have a chance to get this done, fine I misunderstood you, sorry.
Will you accept this statment as an appology, I have like ZERO beef with you.

[pierre]

"If you can prove that Bill McEven have demolished the Amiga community, well, then, just go ahead and prove it. Thing is, since I have no grip of exactly what have been going on the last 7 years behind closed doors, I can't blame Bill for having demolished everything, if anything at all. It could just as well be due to bad circumnstances that things have turned out the way they have."

O.k.  amiga inc was the only co. that had the right to produce a new amiga, they had 7 years to do so, they did not manage to bring a new machine to the market.  They did someting with cell phones. Had there been a product the community would have actualy EVOLVED!  While they failed to produce this machine, others like genisi pulled it off, instead of helping them they stated a war with them divided the remaining community, which is distructive. Now after intese silence they show up gain with a bunch of promises and a wired sale and tranfer to a new Co.  Fish if you ask me.  Its gonna take MORE that a few words from Bill to make my buy into this...AGAIN.
this is my option, you can agree disagree and anthing else.

[pierre]

@Colin_Camper
no it's not like that at all.  It makes sense as it sounds like Mr. Bill McEwen is skipping OS4 and pushing his new OS5.  I think amigaworld is very os4 centric, so they would eaten him alive, I think.
Sounds like Hyperion is out of the deal as soon as the laywers can make it so.

[pierre]

after some thought...

Bill, why are you making another OS?  

What will it have to over over linux, osx, morphOS or windowsXP?

Who is your market?  

Did you at least do a market study to see if anybody wanted ore need this new OS?

Considering you are struggeling with your AmigaAnywhere what makes you confident you have what it takes to build a NEW os? (esp. considering the mess you made with OS4!)

Do you realy think you can play with the big boys?
(the other bill )

Why did you not realize the problems years ago and do something while there MIGHT have been a chance?

When did you realize that there is still and amiga community?

When was the last to time you fired up a classic amiga just to check it out? watched a demo or ran a game?

Have you ever used a toaster/flyer for a produciotn?  Do you understand why that was a great product?

When was the first time you became aware of the amiga brand?

what experiences make you feel like you are a better leader today than you where in 1999?

what does amiga inc have today that can rival how unique the ORIGIONAL OS was in 85?  It's been a long time since tha amiga was INOVATING, we are playing chatch up...(and not doing to well)

I realy don't think there is much demand for this NEW product.  Since you are not doing anything with the old stuff please stop acting as a road block for hobbiest and consider giving the amiga back to the community that loves her.  Haven't we all suffered enough (esp. under your rule!)  Even for you, personaly and for your company, let her go end your agony!

[pierre]

"IF the very near future sees the release of Amiga OS on a game console /set=top box by a large manufacturer at a reasonable price THEN I will quietly celebrate."

I actualy work for one of the big 3 in the console market (I work on the entertainment side), the idea of making a deal with a.inc is laughable.
Just look at the track record (or lack there of)

The sad thing as is used to be a cool OS and given some real leadership could have gone somewhere.   But it too late there are many other options and the idea of doing business with Mr McEwen is a bad one.  If the thing went open source we would ifcource consider it, until then linux it is.

[pierre]

yeah I agree also.  but
@InTheSand
how do you expect eh minimig thing to make it to production when bill stated that deceded on someting else...(going a differt direction) how can He get a license to build it?  We simply have to wait for a.inc to fold to do anything interesting.
I still want to know what how OS5 could be bettern that linux at this point?  Why bother....

[pierre]

Guys, HUGE NEWS!
I was doing some research on the net and I found out that there is already OS10!  This must be a shock to amiga inc, but a small california company by the name of apple computer REALEASED OSX ( thats OS10!!)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html

Not only has it been released, it available for X86!
It looks like a sweat OS!  I can't belive the feature list.   Bill you simply must check this OS out, I'm sure you will want to add similar feature to your OS.  Just give it a look see and see if it gives you any ideas. As for anybody that is waiting for OS5, I think you should "skip" OS5 and move forward to OS10 it will blow your mind!
Ps.  I am willing to do some consulting work for amiga Inc, if they need help, but I'm not cheap ($500.000), but I could help avoid such supprieses as developing on OS 5 version behind the current standard for sure!

One thing's for sure Amiga Inc is on it's last breath, Hyperion and Itec are sitting in the corner waiting to take the kill, but wait it looks like apple as stolen the market and long gone off with the booty!  Sorry guys , you snozze you loose!

[pierre]

From the personal note:Quote:

    Think of my surprise when I learned that all of our inventory was sold for $75,000.00 to a company in India, when we were generating more than that on a monthly basis. This created a big operational hole for the company and caused us great harm in our ability to move forward. This hardware was not even put up for bid or auction, and nobody was consulted in the process.



Was Petro responsible for that? Maybe why he got fired?

bill mcewen is a better leader for sure. But I think this may have happend after Petro.
Bill are you sure you are not forgetting some part of the story here?  Maybe you made a deal with realy nasty VC (senture capital) people who though you where failing and did not want to give you money for ideas they thought where bad?  Maybe the fact that you where not paing you coders was putting the bonding company on edge.  I don;t kneo someting about yout answer makes me think you have forgotten some facts..... :-)

[pierre]

finaly sombody with a spine and some knowlage!  Mods, if you delete this mans works are just censoring what many true amiga fans think!