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PICASSO II+ Transplant
« on: December 07, 2009, 12:10:59 PM »
Hi, I need some help with my Picasso II+ board in my A4000.
I’ve moved it from my A2000 to my A4000 so I know it’s working fine.
I’ve installed the board and ShowConfig says its there: Board (Village Tronic):  Prod=2167/12
I’ve Installed Picasso96 and the Picasso monitor driver is in DEVS:monitors but no modes are available.
If I run Debug it comes up “No Board”
If I run Picasso96 as suggested in the guide I cannot attach a mode setting to the device as it comes up “No Board” in the menu.

Something simple I’m sure,but its about 6 years since I last did this on an A2000, as well as me being tired and going to bed now.

Help appreciated.

Cheers.

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 11:53:40 AM »
Thanks all for the replies.
It's good to see I'm still in tune with the Amiga, but it's also bad in some respect. As all the offers of help I have tried already.
Like I said, I have done this a long time ago and I feel it is something simple.  Those gotchas that you quickly forget as they are so obvious once you get them.
I've swapped zorro. but the fact that "ShowConfig" sees the board fine tells me that it's not an autoconfig problem.
I've removed everything out of DEVS/MONITORS but for PAL. Picasso and Powerfb have been put in by the install.
Picasso96Mode won't do as the "Attach Setting to" Menu option comes up "No Board"
My guess; that is because it needs the device driver at the OS level.
The Picasso debug can't see the card either.  
There's not a jumper I need to set for the 4000 vs the 2000?  I know it's a zorro 2 24bit card and not zorro 3 32 bit.
I've had a nice xmas dinner tonight so i'm not in the right frame for more investigation.
Suffice to say thank you all for the support so far.
Time is not a constraint.  When it comes to Amigas.
Will get there.

cheers

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 12:48:48 PM »
Tried the original Picasso II+ install. Tried the latest Picasso96 drivers. Did all the necessary removing of LIBs and DEVS/MONITORS files in between.
Begining to think there is something sus with the OS as SYSCONFIG can see the card fine but PICASSO96MODE and DEBUG/CHECKBOARDS cannot.
Card works fine when I plug it back into my A2000.
Maybe my Zorro riser is stuffed..?  Very unlikely for a fairly passive backplane.

I hate doing OS reinstalls.  But that is the next choice.

Hmmmmm

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 12:09:14 PM »
Hi all,
@MastaTabs: I have no idea what you mean by "memory mapped mode"

@zipper: Full line in ShowConfig is:

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic):   Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)

So in this case 12 is obviously the active config ID.

There are 3 jumpers on the board that I have not touched and work on the A2000:
JP301 (Comp Sync) and JP302 (DMPS feature) both are open. not enabled.
The other Jumper is JP401(Memory) 1-2=segmented. 2-3=1MB Linear. Open=2MB linear. This is open as I would expect.

@mousehouse: thanks for the help but this is a Picasso II+ and not a IV.

@tone007. Cheers, I have used the latest Picasso96 install from AMINET with the II+ driver.

Was it Einstein or Spock that said trying the same sequence and expecting a different result is madness or insanity.  I'm suffering from that now.

Time for more drastic measures me thinks.

Cheers

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 03:13:53 PM »
Nup, Still not sure what you're saying Mastatabs. Linear=contiguous, segmented=uncontiguous is my understanding.  There are no other cards on the zorro bus.
Anyone with a Picasso 2+ on their A4000? I'm looking for help...

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 12:25:38 PM »
Hi, thanks again for the help. There are no other cards or boards installed.
The only output for Showconfig is what ive pasted.

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)

Should Showconfig be listing the 2MB of memory on the Picasso II+ ?  Cos it 'aint.  I'll put it back in my 2000 and see what showconfig says there.

cheers,

Gertsy.
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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 11:30:42 AM »
Hi all, an update on this.
After Xmas I finally got the card back into my A2000.  It works fine.

So back in my A4000 I've put a wait in my startup and noticed the following error:

Picasso96: could not create graphics board context for 'Picasso II'
Please check your Picasso96 installation.

I have a Buddah Flash working fine but I'm begininng to think I may have a problem with the MB or the Riser.

Any ideas on how to check it out ?
I've just purchased a Retina BLT Z3 and am worried I may not be able to use it in my A4000

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 12:23:17 PM »
Yep.
The card works perfectly in the A2000. OS 3.1.
I did a fresh OS install on the A4000 taking it back to OS 3.1 but the same issue.

The Showconfig should show 4 lines of text.  It does on the A2000.  On the A4000 I get only the first line of config.  Now I understand what the guys were trying to tell me before.

Could it be an Autoconfig issue ?  I remember reading somewhere once that the riser can get zapped by a bad card or jumper setting.

It's a pity if that's the case because the A4000 works flawlessly apart from that.  All the Caps have nice shiny solder and the audio is fine. But then why the Buddah works I don't know. it certainly has very few tracks from the Zorro slot.

Will see how the new card goes. Fingers crossed.

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 12:07:32 PM »
Ohh dear.  It's all bad.  My new Retina BLT Z3 only works in my A4000 for a minute or 2.
On HDW installation and booting the Amiga 4000 is fine. But then Showconfig only shows the one line just like for my Picasso. Chills..
Installed the software fired up Wb emulation and everything came up fine, on a LCD too.
Within 1-2mins however the mouse pointer and machine froze. Power light blinking slightly.
Tried different slots same result with differing run times.
Re-seated all the chips on the card.  which is everything but the NCR chip. Same result.
Power supply voltages are fine and it seems to run my Buddha and 3" 2Gb HD fine.
I am guessing it is not the card and probably my 4000.  But as it’s a Zorro III card I cant try it in my 2000.
I'm feeling very vulnerable right now...   Help....  )o:

PS: Forgot to mention once you reboot the A4000 the card has disappeared.  You have to turn the A4K off and on to see it again..

Sad gertsy....
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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2010, 01:36:10 PM »
Quote from: jenfry;542958
Ops... I have a simple Picasso II, not a + version...
Anyone knows which side is pin 1 on jumper JP401 of a Picasso II?


At a guess pin 1 of the jumper block will be the first pin. The screening of the JP401 label should run in the same direction that the jumper sequence runs. No guarantees!


BTW: On topic, my A4000 riser does seem to be stuffed. Both cards work fine in slot one.  You know how hard it is to get big cards in slot one...  Anyone got a spare riser for sale..?

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 01:40:04 PM »
To close this one off. It was my A4000 Riser.  New riser no problem.

Now to try and trace the problem with my old one.