PICASSO II+ Transplant

[gertsy]

Hi, I need some help with my Picasso II+ board in my A4000.
I’ve moved it from my A2000 to my A4000 so I know it’s working fine.
I’ve installed the board and ShowConfig says its there: Board (Village Tronic):  Prod=2167/12
I’ve Installed Picasso96 and the Picasso monitor driver is in DEVS:monitors but no modes are available.
If I run Debug it comes up “No Board”
If I run Picasso96 as suggested in the guide I cannot attach a mode setting to the device as it comes up “No Board” in the menu.

Something simple I’m sure,but its about 6 years since I last did this on an A2000, as well as me being tired and going to bed now.

Help appreciated.

Cheers.

Gertsy.

[Tenacious]

Since no one has responded, I'll offer a very lame reply.

I had this very same problem (Picasso96 not recognizing a newly installed Picasso II board) about 5 years ago.  I don't remember the solution, but there is one, mine works.  I should have recorded it somewhere.

It might have been something like: "move all exotic drivers (Super72, bdlNTSC, etc) except the essential video drivers (NTSC, Pal, PicassoII) from DEVS:Monitors/ back to SYS:Storage/Monitors and then reboot".  This seems right.

Some one here knows, they helped me through this.  Grin.,

[MastaTabs]

Seems like you need to have a talk with Picasso96Mode first.
Somewhere in the menu is an option something like 'Attach to board'. I don't remember exactly right now. Then save and reboot.

[tone007]

Seems like you need to have a talk with Picasso96Mode first.
Somewhere in the menu is an option something like 'Attach to board'. I don't remember exactly right now. Then save and reboot.

This solved my problem once upon a time.

Setting up RTG cards can be a real drag.

[Tenacious]

I believe that's an essential step, maybe that will do it for him.  

My problem was deeper and more frustrating than that.  I read the manual.  When I selected "Attach to Board", the system would respond "Board not found!".

IIRC, there was something gluing my system exclusively to motherboard graphics when the OS came up.  I vaguely remember an incompatibility of Picasso II with the Super, the Euro, and the Dbl video drivers.  It seems that after I removed them, the system recognized the Picasso II.

My two cents.

[amigadave]

Hi, I need some help with my Picasso II+ board in my A4000.
I’ve moved it from my A2000 to my A4000 so I know it’s working fine.
I’ve installed the board and ShowConfig says its there: Board (Village Tronic):  Prod=2167/12
I’ve Installed Picasso96 and the Picasso monitor driver is in DEVS:monitors but no modes are available.
If I run Debug it comes up “No Board”
If I run Picasso96 as suggested in the guide I cannot attach a mode setting to the device as it comes up “No Board” in the menu.

Something simple I’m sure,but its about 6 years since I last did this on an A2000, as well as me being tired and going to bed now.

Help appreciated.

Cheers.

Gertsy.

Try it in another Zorro slot, in fact, keep trying it in every Zorro slot you have until you have tested it in every Zorro slot you have and confirmed that it behaves the same in all of them.

[gertsy]

Thanks all for the replies.
It's good to see I'm still in tune with the Amiga, but it's also bad in some respect. As all the offers of help I have tried already.
Like I said, I have done this a long time ago and I feel it is something simple.  Those gotchas that you quickly forget as they are so obvious once you get them.
I've swapped zorro. but the fact that "ShowConfig" sees the board fine tells me that it's not an autoconfig problem.
I've removed everything out of DEVS/MONITORS but for PAL. Picasso and Powerfb have been put in by the install.
Picasso96Mode won't do as the "Attach Setting to" Menu option comes up "No Board"
My guess; that is because it needs the device driver at the OS level.
The Picasso debug can't see the card either.  
There's not a jumper I need to set for the 4000 vs the 2000?  I know it's a zorro 2 24bit card and not zorro 3 32 bit.
I've had a nice xmas dinner tonight so i'm not in the right frame for more investigation.
Suffice to say thank you all for the support so far.
Time is not a constraint.  When it comes to Amigas.
Will get there.

cheers

Gertsy.

[tone007]

Picasso and Powerfb

I never had a Powerfb in Devs:Monitors with any of my RTG card installs (CV64, PII, Spectrum,) just one file for the respective card.

Using the newest Picasso96 driver on Aminet?

[mousehouse]

Just did a reinstall of my Amiga 4000 using a disk from:

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/picasso2#s_picasso2

probably the 2.4, can't remember. Selected "Novice Install" - worked out of the box on my PicassoIV.

[gertsy]

Tried the original Picasso II+ install. Tried the latest Picasso96 drivers. Did all the necessary removing of LIBs and DEVS/MONITORS files in between.
Begining to think there is something sus with the OS as SYSCONFIG can see the card fine but PICASSO96MODE and DEBUG/CHECKBOARDS cannot.
Card works fine when I plug it back into my A2000.
Maybe my Zorro riser is stuffed..?  Very unlikely for a fairly passive backplane.

I hate doing OS reinstalls.  But that is the next choice.

Hmmmmm

Gertsy.

[MastaTabs]

you wrote:

"I’ve installed the board and ShowConfig says its there: Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/12"

Is this the only entry starting with 2167 ? The board should have two entries in memory mapped mode as far as I remember.

[zipper]

you wrote:

" Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/12"

resource.cx says even: 2167 / 11,12,13
Don't remember - should launch my 500T to check - haven't done it in 2-3 years :huh:

[gertsy]

Hi all,
@MastaTabs: I have no idea what you mean by "memory mapped mode"

@zipper: Full line in ShowConfig is:

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic):   Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)

So in this case 12 is obviously the active config ID.

There are 3 jumpers on the board that I have not touched and work on the A2000:
JP301 (Comp Sync) and JP302 (DMPS feature) both are open. not enabled.
The other Jumper is JP401(Memory) 1-2=segmented. 2-3=1MB Linear. Open=2MB linear. This is open as I would expect.

@mousehouse: thanks for the help but this is a Picasso II+ and not a IV.

@tone007. Cheers, I have used the latest Picasso96 install from AMINET with the II+ driver.

Was it Einstein or Spock that said trying the same sequence and expecting a different result is madness or insanity.  I'm suffering from that now.

Time for more drastic measures me thinks.

Cheers

Gertsy

[mongo]

Do you have any other Zorro-II boards in your machine?

[zipper]

Hi all,
@MastaTabs: I have no idea what you mean by "memory mapped mode"

@zipper: Full line in ShowConfig is:

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic):   Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)
Gertsy

Memory mapped = segmented I think.
that 64k is the driver part or whatsit called; it should also show the memory part, 1 or 2 MB with a functioning  card.