MorphOS has been killed from a grassy knoll

[Bobsonsirjonny]

KennyR wrote:

bloodline wrote:
All is not lost, should MOS be "dumped", then owners of the Pegasos boards are welcome to use AROS, and bring AROS up to spec on the PPC :-)

Not likely I'm afraid, bloodline: we MOS users wouldn't find AROS very useful without integrated legacy 68k emulation. We're already spoilt being able to run 68k, PUP, WOS, and even now simple OS4 apps, many can't see the point in downgrading functionality. If the worst happens, most likely they'll either sell their Pegasos or move to Linux. Not many will go the OS4 route, for sure.

Well if they sell their pegs thats more OS 4 users. It strikes me as a case of cutting off ones nose to spite ones face. Same goes for developers who refuse to port to either platform - at the end of the day they are only loosing sales. Not hurting anyone but themselves. Some may buy 2nd hand pegs for linux, but I doubt it as I cant see second hand pegs going cheaper than cheaper and new X86 boxes.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Karlos wrote:
You don't always need the codebase, just the knowledge and the time and effort to reproduce the stuff you cant directly use (not talking reverse engineering or anything dodgy, just creating compatible API's).

My actual thought was rewriting the "bits you cant use cause genesi owns them" around AROS and using that to create some sort of OpenMOS....?

And the MOS team are very good at creating compatable API's

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[Bobsonsirjonny]

Well actually we have just been discussing it on IRC - 2nd hand pegs making cheap OS4 boxes :-)

Why? Because we would be fools to look a gift horse in the mouth.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

@ Karlos

Indeed - A case of the thorn and the log methinks.

I repeat - I think KennyR is a bitter fool. Mod me again by all mean, I promise I wont go running crying "censorship, censorship" ;-)

And yes Kenny that was aimed at you.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

tou·ché but it all works fine on my UA1c (but my box doesnt have altivec - altivec is enabled in OS4 though)

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Im working on something with some people which should help further cross development, some of the people are blue. All your assumptions can be broken down. There is a difference between users and companies - it would do you no harm at all if you'd learn to tell the difference.


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[Bobsonsirjonny]

Im not upset at all - I actually find the whole situation quite funny :-)

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Stay on Topic! Don't get Personal.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Lando wrote:

Bobsonsirjonny wrote:
Well actually we have just been discussing it on IRC - 2nd hand pegs making cheap OS4 boxes :-)

Why? Because we would be fools to look a gift horse in the mouth.

If OS4 did run on the Pegasos, and users did start to pick up pegs in large numbers, it would also mean the end of Eyetech.  The OS4 crowd is their only market; they have had no success selling boards to run Linux due to the hardware problems, the high price, and the availability of better / lower-priced alternatives.

If Eyetech did go out of business, is this something that current OS4 users would feel comfortable with?

I doubt Eyetech would go out of business, Alan Redhouse is a very clever man, and no doubt has interests in many other areas. Plus there is a distinct difference in terms of size, power and suitability of use between the ua1i and the Pegasos 2. One suits the industrial, one the desktop.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Karlos wrote:
@KennyR

Of course that's up to you, although I cant help thinking you have some strange issues there. I think the linux fanbase are a bunch of weirdos (thats the better end too), but it doesn't stop me tinkering with linux.

I don't give a monkeys for Genesi or Amiga Inc, but I don't prejudice MOS or OS4 based on who set them in motion or their existing supporters.

In general, we need more fellers like Wilse I reckon :-)

Yeah, I like Wilse :-)

[Bobsonsirjonny]

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[Bobsonsirjonny]

KennyR wrote:
@bobson

Can't help but feel you're the pot calling the kettle black here. Let's drop the petty name calling for a moment and be civil. We're both passionate about the OS we chose. We both made compromises as to certain things for this OS. Trying to trivialise my opinion just opens you up to the same trivialisation of yours. And you can spout your own vitreol too, I've seen you do it. And admit it: you wouldn't support Genesi in any way until hell froze over. I feel the same away about KMOS, and to a lesser extent Hyperion (although I'd buy their games, and I bought all their previous ones.) Where I have WrongPlanet, you have AmigaWorld - both bitterly controversial sites to those who don't appreciate them. We're not really all that different, you know.

Flatter youself.. For a start I'm much taller than you ;-)
Loose a few faces and it would be more palatable I grant you.

But the fact that we're just not going to disagree should be ample evidence for anyone that the MOS and OS4 sides are just too far away from any kind of understanding. They *are* just computers, but that really doesn't make much difference. Too much water has gone under the bridge. While some users might consider it, most won't.

You and I not going to just disagree has nothing to do with blue and red - but all to do with you and I.

AmigaWorld cant be compared to Wrongpla.net, I find Amigaworld hilarious :-P (narf narf..)