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Of course they will. I'm sure Jens Schoenfeld is salivating at this very moment.


Why putting those things on Xorro when a usb or pci will do, too. And usb and pci is ubiquoteous, i.e. the potential target groups contains millions of customers while a Xorro borad will target a few hundered...

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 08:27:59 PM »
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hmmmm sounds a bit cheap....was it Heathkit.....last dev kit with of any use I've seen costs a few bob more than that. Current Atmel and Arm kits are in the several hundred area and anything with a screen and keyboard you need be in the trade already. The current "Hardware" development is aimed at the trade not the innovators, its time that balance was redressed.


There you go: https://www.xmos.com/store 99 US$ for that.

And Atmel sets can be pretty cheap, too. Cypress even gives some of their PSoC kits away for free (at least I paid nothing). The days dev kits for embedded chips were insanly expensive are mostly over.

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 11:35:05 PM »
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I think the XCore chip on the X1000 is wired to the main memory bus in such a way that it can be a slave processor for replacing interrupts with.  The author of the Radeon drivers for OS 4 said as much on this amigaworld.net thread.  See post #21.


Would make sense, but still not a big difference than to hook it up to the pci bus. As soon as it want have access to shared system routines it needs to trigger an interrupt at the host cpu to get permission. Better than hooking up to usb (where the stack must trigger an sw interrupt), but not much different than any other dma access (e.g. by a pci card)...

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2010, 08:34:00 AM »
Quote from: Matt_H;537062
Some thoughts on this new board:

Granted, I was not following the reveal puzzle very closely, but it's signifance was a bit lost on me. Was there a point to the gold/black color theme?

XMOS uses his colors.
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Did the puzzle make it anywhere outside the community other than OSNews?

The news kind of made it to the online edition of Nowegian Dagblad. That's kind of success I'd say.
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I thought the big reveal was timed to coincide with CES, but did anything happen there? Then to announce the complete system with no CPU and only a peek at the case, wow, that killed a lot of momentum. And frankly, I thought the "Don't worry your pretty little head about it" regarding the CPU was extremely patronizing.

I doubt there is a secret über-CPU. But all this half inforatio is rather oring I liked the initial game, but not revealing all the details in the end - bad idea.
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That being said, this does look like a fine board. Plenty of modern slots and ports. Slightly disappointing they didn't go full bleeding edge with USB 3.0, but not a dealbreaker. I've seen a lot of "What the hell is the XMOS chip for?" postings, but I think the XMOS is kinda nifty. Clearly drawn from the "if it's there, people will use it" school of logic. It's a new tool that I hope will see some creative programming. Disseminating Amiga-centric dev kits for it will be key; hopefully a full SDK will be available with the OS install, not "in a few weeks".

At the same time, I'm interested to see what software changes will be made to OS4. I suspect that the so-called 4.1.1 will be what 4.1 should have been (instead of a hasty commercial response to MorphOS2). I've criticized the Unix-y direction Hyperion has been taking OS4, maybe the new release will start to clean things up.

I kind of doubt that.
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With the rumor mill suggesting the Apple tablet will be $1000+ and not run OSX, my interest in it is vastly diminished. Since it might not be too much more expensive than a Mac, maybe the new A1 will get my money instead (though I've got to save my pennies for a Powerbook for MorphOS as well) :)


Never got the buzz about the tablet pc. Basically that is just a touchscreen driven notebook. I fail to see the innovation there.

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 12:19:20 PM »
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It seems Varisys has stopped offering all PA-6T related products on their webpage(somebody on awn noticed).

Actrually it was Krashan who spotted that and reported at morphzone: http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7183&forum=3

Even more interesting from that same thread is that Varisys doesn't source PA6T chips, Aeon must get them from another source.
Well, PA6T - the wrong horse to have bidded on? I've said so and I say so now. The chip was interesting fom its specs, but it is dead like a dodo.

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Quote from: Motormouth;635763
Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?
I guess the real question is do you want AmigaOS4.1
or 680x0 compatibility?

If Amigas are just hobby machines I would prefer being able to run a high-end AmigaOs 3.1
computer than AmigaOS4.1 that feels just a little bit too much like Linux.

Neither of them. Am having nice maschines for MorphOS already and am considering an Arcade Replay board for 68k retro stuff.