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Re: Brand-New Deneb - Trident errors out...
« on: May 20, 2010, 06:53:59 PM »
Quote from: save2600;559646

MUI? Magic User Interface?? First time I heard of that (early 2000's), I thought WTF? A program that sorta/kinda replaces Amiga GUI/Intuition or whatever - that seemingly does nothing different, takes forever to load and utilizes a squished screenmode. Great. I still don't understand why Trident *needs* this program in order to run - but I'm sure there's a good explanation - there always is.  lol


You had not hear about MUI until 2000? Were you hidding behind a rock? And what programs did you use in 2000 to connect to internet? Almost all Amiga internet software uses and used MUI. Didn't you use Miami, YAM, IBrowse, AmIRC, Amster (napster)...?

I guess you would also complain when a program required bgui, gtlayout, classact or any 3rd party library.

MUI is not a "program", it's a set of libraries and classes that allow Amiga coders to produce decent GUIs, something very difficult with crappy gadtools or other primitive graphic toolkits.

Have you ever tried out MUI examples? You have all kind of different classes, you have drag'n'drop everywhere and it's a pleasure from a programmer user point. You can set per-application preferences depending on the preferences you want

IIRC MUI3.8 is even included with AmigaOS3.9 as contribution.

BTW, MUI is not slow, try to build similar complex interfaces with Reaction and you will notice it. People who claim MUI is slow usually fill every gui element with textures and later complain about slowness.
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Re: Brand-New Deneb - Trident errors out...
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2010, 10:46:09 PM »
Quote from: outlawal2;559788
I am a bit frustrated at where this thread has gone...  I was simply asking for some help with an issue that I am having with the Deneb board...  Now 2 pages of responses later there are comments like "Uninformed drivel" and "where have you been under a rock?"

No I haven't been under a rock, I have spent the last 20 years making my living supporting PC's, Servers, MACS and other various equipment.  I asked a simple question on this forum because the folks here are knowledgeable and I have been out of the Amiga scene basically since 1992 or so...  So give me a break here...

Also, someone mentioned that they thought MUI was on the 3.9 CD...  I searched for it on the CD and could not locate it.  (that certainly may be my issue, but the fact remains I can't find it.) I will take a look again this evening...

For those that are attempting to help I really appreciate it!  For the rest that seem bent on pointing out my obvious ignorance...  I am already painfully aware, that is why I am here... So please save the insults as I am not interested...

I ask now for everyone to please take a deep breath and please stop taking offense, and please stop offending...  I am just looking for some guidance here..

Thanks!


Sorry, I thought it was in the contributions directory like Picasso96.
You can download MUI 3.8 here: http://aminet.net/util/libs/mui38usr.lha

About Deneb install: remember to install fat95, the most important file is "fat95" handler that should be kept in SYS:L/

You could also install 3rd party filesystems from Marek Szyprowski to be able to read NTFS HDs http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/ntfs_0.9

Remember to download Poseidonv4.4 too http://www.platon42.de/files/usb/PoseidonV4.lha

Here you have some extra usb-ethernet drivers for Poseidon (may be outdated by Poseidonv4.4 so unpack them just in case your usb-ethernet adapter is not supported)  http://aminet.net/package/driver/net/rtl8150eth

Here you have Luciferin4.1, handle it with care: http://www.platon42.de/files/usb/Luciferin.lha




PS: Since you are transfering files some 3rd party MUI classes (also known as MCCs) may be handy for some programs like NList, Betterstring, Texteditor... these can be downloaded from Aminet: http://aminet.net/search?query=mcc

IBrowse is one of the best browsers for OS3.x and uses MUI: http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/
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Re: Brand-New Deneb - Trident errors out...
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 03:36:36 PM »
Quote from: outlawal2;559917
Tried unpacking on 2 separate PC's.. No dice..  And then burned the file directory to CD and unpacked it on the Amiga itself.  Still failed with the same error in line 299...

WinRAR can unpack LHA files more or less correctly (minus protection bits IIRC). As save2600 has commented other OSes have tendency to screw Amiga apps protection bits so unpack your Amiga stuff on your Amiga. If you insist on unpacking the files using PC then you may have to use "protect" amiga command to give the right flags to the file. Anyway that doesn't matter because you should unpack the files on your miggy. Update the installer as Zipper commented :-)
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