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Shhh! Dark Energy found...
« on: May 14, 2004, 01:15:31 PM »
Hum,
Looks like Nasa has found something about the mysterious force called Dark Energy...
They'll `spill the beans` at 1 p.m. EDT, May 18, in a special press conference (Webb Auditorium, NASA Headquarters).


Seems as if they've found `a powerful and independent method` to probe dark energy using NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory.
http://chandra.harvard.edu/

These results on cosmic acceleration provide clues about the nature of dark energy and the fate of the universe.



Dark Energy is an unidentified `anti gravity` that is stretching the fabric of space-time. All the evidence — since the discovery of the universe’s accelerating expansion — has added up to an unsettling cosmic recipe: 4 percent ordinary matter, 23 percent dark matter, and 73 percent dark energy.

Five billion years ago, dark energy became the dominant force in the universe, expanding space and rendering it ever more difficult for gravity to dominate ordinary matter.

As time goes by, dark energy dilutes the matter in our universe, galaxy clusters should become fewer and farther spaced out.
So if we survey clusters that predate the onset of dark energy, we should find many more than exist today.
 A recent study found significantly fewer — suggesting that matter has continued to gravitationally coalesce over time, that there is four times as much dark matter as previously believed, and that dark energy is nothing more than a fantastic illusion.

But,

Perhaps astronomers don’t fully understand the behaviour of galaxy clusters. Or perhaps that particular survey was not representative of the average number of clusters in the young universe. And it looks like the Chandra space telescope has found evidence...

Either way the new results should be an eye opener...

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Re: Shhh!
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2004, 10:12:09 PM »
Hum,
i didn`t mean it to be that quiet...

But it was Dark Energy , not Dark Matter, that they think the`ve found...

Er, i`ve made up a wee page just for your amusement here...



[color=CC0000]Warning: [/color][color=6666FF]Page contains explicit science and nerdity[/color]
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Re: Sh**!
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2004, 12:08:58 AM »
Hehe,
No need to read that now...

The Horses Mouth

So it looks like (for now) the big-rip is the final outcome...

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Re: SH**T!
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2004, 01:01:46 AM »
 Hum came across this new theory that links neutrino's slight mass to accelerating universe expansion (dark energy)

(the papers not actually released yet )

"Two of the biggest physics breakthroughs during the last decade are the discovery that wispy subatomic particles called neutrinos actually have a small amount of mass and the detection that the expansion of the universe is actually picking up speed.

Three University of Washington physicists (Ann Nelson, David Kaplan, Neal Weiner) are suggesting the two discoveries are integrally linked through one of the strangest features of the universe, dark energy, a linkage they say could be caused by a previously unrecognised subatomic particle they call the "acceleron."

Dark energy was negligible in the early universe, but now it accounts for about 70 percent of the cosmos. Understanding the phenomenon could help to explain why someday, long in the future, the universe will expand so much that no other stars or galaxies will be visible in our night sky, and ultimately it could help scientists discern whether expansion of the universe will go on indefinitely.

In this new theory, neutrinos are influenced by a new force resulting from their interactions with accelerons. Dark energy results as the universe tries to pull neutrinos apart, yielding a tension like that in stretched rubber band. That tension fuels the expansion of the universe.


Neutrinos are created by the trillions in the nuclear furnaces of stars such as our sun. They stream through the universe, and billions pass through all matter, including people, every second. Besides a minuscule mass, they have no electrical charge, which means they interact very little, if at all, with the materials they pass through.

But the interaction between accelerons and other matter is even weaker, which is why those particles have not yet been seen by sophisticated detectors. However, in the new theory, accelerons exhibit a force that can influence neutrinos, a force that can be detected by a variety of neutrino experiments already operating around the world.

"There are many models of dark energy, but the tests are mostly limited to cosmology, in particular measuring the rate of expansion of the universe. Because this involves observing very distant objects, it is very difficult to make such a measurement precisely,".

"This is the only model that gives us some meaningful way to do experiments on earth to find the force that gives rise to dark energy. We can do this using existing neutrino experiments."


The researchers say a neutrino's mass can actually change according to the environment through which it is passing, in the same way the appearance of light changes depending on whether it's travelling through air, water or a prism. That means that neutrino detectors can come up with somewhat different findings depending on where they are and what surrounds them.

But if neutrinos were a component of dark energy, that suggests the existence of a force that would reconcile anomalies among the various experiments. The existence of that force, made up of both neutrinos and accelerons, will continue to fuel the expansion of the universe.

Physicists have pursued evidence that could tell whether the universe will continue to expand indefinitely or come to an abrupt halt and collapse on itself in a so-called "big crunch." While the new theory doesn't prescribe a "big crunch," it does mean that at some point the expansion will stop getting faster.

"In our theory, eventually the neutrinos would get too far apart and become too massive to be influenced by the effect of dark energy any more, so the acceleration of the expansion would have to stop. The universe could continue to expand, but at an ever-decreasing rate."

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Re: SHot!
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2004, 01:41:47 PM »
@ KennyR
i see what you are saying, and that would  generally be correct, er, discounting the fact that its an higgs energy field that they interact with...

But neutrinos have mass, they can't travel at exactly the speed of light;  
[if they didn't have mass, they must travel at the speed of light]


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And look where it got you,
< on a thread talking about cutting edge physics...>

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Re: SHot!
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2004, 06:16:43 PM »
Hum,
i know what you mean,
i think most ppl are closet scientists,
and have a fascination for the beauty of it all...
< the human `condition` striving to know and learn - to boldly go, where nuns have gone before...>


Once it gets a grip
it sucks you right in,

Like watching a snake eating a live gerbil

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Re: Shhh! Dark Energy found...
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2004, 10:04:17 AM »
Hum,
interesting...

Time to create a thumping
techno, Stephen Hawking module
 - Who's afraid of a black light -?