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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #14 from previous page: February 23, 2003, 08:49:37 PM »
As I imagined... YOU DID NOT ANSWER.
*WHY* didn't McEwen pay his employee (I won't say
his name, you know him, I don't want to get him in a
flamewar without his consent) and *WHY* didn't he
show up in court when that employee sued him if
he did have the money to pay him AND the money for
the lawyer? :)
I you REALLY love Amiga Inc, you'd better SPIT IT OUT
before I DO! The remaints of this community needs
anything BUT liars! Yes, Mike, if you STILL cover this
story up you're no better than a LIAR!.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2003, 09:53:50 PM »
I don't understand what that smiley should be good for. IMO the story is quite without dignity and involves much back-stabbing.
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Not paying an employee and keep telling him that
you'll pay him IS backstabbing...

Some time ago, Amiga Inc was struggling and employees were told to be paid when proper funding arrived.
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"Some time ago"...

The specific employee was asked to leave, but he wouldn't.
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You cannot fire an employee if you owe him money.
It's illegal.

After a while Genesi comes into the picture, when confidential information regarding these internal problems comes to their knowledge and offers to fund a lawsuit against Amiga Inc for this employee.
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Is that what McEwen told you? Heh... discrediting
Genesi even for your internal afairs... PATHETIC.

Due to the issues mentioned earlier, no proper defence was prepared and thus they lost by default.
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No proper defence doesn't necesserily mean NOT
GO TO COURT AT ALL! Neither does it mean NOT
paying the employee AFTER losing the court:)

Bill McEwen made various *very large* personal sacrifices to keep Amiga Inc going and afterwards managed to secure some additional funding.
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We shall see that.

Just like Jay Miner, Bill has done and still does everything he can to keep his Amiga dream alive and luckily they are currently in a better position today.
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!!!! DO NOT PUT JM IN THE SAME LINE AS BILL MCEWEN !!!!

Jay Miner is the father of the Amiga, what did Bill do
about it? Ruin the name...
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2003, 11:05:58 PM »
That's not how professional companies work:)
"We've got no money to give you, go away".
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2003, 12:12:53 PM »
It's true. A truth is not FUD, no matter who spreads it.
Ok, my dear metalhead? BTW, tell McEwen to pay him.

Your last chance to get me and the majority of the
Amiga community was the inhouse OS4. Instead you
guys chose to play around with us without doing
anything. You're NOTHING for me, you're a ghost.
The only companies that might get us now are
Hyperion and Genesi.

You failed...

Btw... Why are you so angry? Money probs? ;-)
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2003, 01:04:56 PM »
I said everything I had to say. If you want to know
more about this case do some research.
Amiga Inc is not the leader anymore.
They are nothing. They produce nothing that interests
most Amiga users. Hyperion does, Genesi does,
*AMIGA* Inc doesn't... It's a shame... to be even called
"Amiga"
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2003, 10:13:46 PM »
It already backfired... to Amiga Inc...
They've been ASKING for it for a VERY long time with
their legal threats and defamation. It backfired...
THEY are being sued.
And btw... that person doesn't speak on FORUMS for
his own reasons. This does not mean that he didn't
talk about it neither that he does not think that it's
important. He sued McEwen AND won already.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2003, 11:16:20 PM »
HMetal, the problem is not "not payment".
It's lying. McEwen was telling him that he was
actually paying his medical insurance at all times...
till he got to use it and get a VERY nice not payed bill
of several thousant dollars.

And about products... I bought SEVERAL products
from Eyetech, I've got ALL games Hyperion developed (beta-tested 2.5 of them) and I'm happy
about that.
I also bought your.... party pack thing. I was lucky
someone bought it off me. Yes, yes, I also have
OS3.5 and 3.9. 3.9 was supposed to be an Amiga Inc.
product wasn't it (even while H&P made it).
So yes, it does VERY WELL concern me. I am happy
that OS4 is off your hands now as I will finally see it
on my shelf now.

Oh, by the way, is the 3sat story fictual?
The "1st of September: Get legal or get shut down" thingie? VARIOUS attempts to stop people from
going MOS "cause it's illegal?". Come on. These are
FACTS. And I do have facts to base my "employee"
story but I don't want to disclose his name, as I have
to in order to give more info. Please HMetal, people
need to know the truth. THE TRUTH. Nothing of these
would be said right now if Amiga Inc was open. They
decided to take another, cover up, route. These are
the consequencies. Don't blame anyone else about
this, I was **VERY** pro-Amiga Inc.
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Re: Genesi: Update regarding the change to the Pegasos-II
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2003, 01:05:17 PM »
I don't have to tell you "the truth" about anything relating to Amiga employees and, actually, I am prevented by NDA about even disclosing information of this nature unless given permission to divulge such. The information you are "entitled" to as Amiga releases it is on www.amiga.com, os.amiga.com, amigadev.net and amiga-anywhere.com.
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And people waiting for their t-shirts are entitled to
information about it but this information is not on
those sites. Are they NOT entitled to that information?

I will repeat: Amiga's employee relations are none of your business. There is nothing to "cover up" because you have no right to it in the first place.
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Yeah, right.

By the way, if you were as "pro Amiga" and wary of "bad practices" as you claim you were, then an employee dispute wouldn't shake that. Also, a "pro Amiga" user would stand by Amiga's decision to protect our intellectual property and our right to prevent piracy through perfectly acceptable practices as opposed to those who, by nature of losing, pretty much gave people a push to pirate AmigaOS 4 when it is released.
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He didn't advocate piracy. As he said in the thread
itself "If it is to be done, why not do it legally?".


You may accuse Amiga of many things but we are at least professional enough to not advocate pirating of another product or even hint at such a practice by mentioning it in a public message or, for that matter, any other message.
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Read above.

P.S. AmigaOS is not "out of Amiga's hands" as you claim and, yes, it WILL hit the shelves.
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Well, that's not what I read in BH's interview. As soon
as you go bankupt OS4 and the right to use the name
is theirs. I'm happy about that. Yes, it will hit the selves
as I already said. It will also hit my own shelf as well.

 To assume that Amiga employee relations with 1 former employee have any bearing on the state of AmigaOS 4 is all too laughable.
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Did I do that in my comment? I *REALLY* don't think
so.

So much for your argument(s).
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