I am giving up AmigaOS4

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Ilwrath wrote:

Out of curiousity, I really would like to see an A1 run AmigaOS4. (no demo that I know of has been within less than 400 miles of my city...)  It would just be fascinating to see how much of it is really ready.

Yeah It's really best to see the results for yourself. I saw it in december, and it was looking very good.  It's really just the gfx system that needs to be completed.

But it's really an unfortunate situation.  I think Hyperion is purposefully being slow.  I'd guess they are hoping AI will finally die, so they can keep the cut of profits AI would claim.  While, of course, AI has no money, but is doing it's best Black Knight "I'm not dead yet!" impression -- hoping to collect money from Hyperion or the mystery investors.  

So it's just a waiting game.  Who will blink first?  Will AI croak?  Or will Hyperion just say "screw it" and write off the losses to be able to collect something?  Who knows?  Both companies have a lot to lose by being the first to give in, though.  Meanwhile, the Amiga fans continue to suffer, while the technology turns more and more outdated and useless.  If no one breaks the stalemate soon though, it won't matter who won the squabble.  It'll all be worthless.

I really hope I'm wrong....  It would be a sad and petty end for the greatest computer ever.  :-(

I think you're waaaaay out there. The longer OS4 takes, the more money Hyperion lose, simple as that.  Amiga Inc. have to buy back the code once it's completed anyway.  

And if AI croaks, guess who'll be in there like a flash to buy up the name? No, AI needs Hyperion and Hyperion needs AI (at the moment)

No-one will benefit from delaying OS4 (except Genesi to a certain extent)

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Ilwrath wrote:

Point me to any signs of recent progress.  

You really haven't been paying attention.

Hyperion have even announced they are working on other projects.  

Hyperion announces Gorky 17 project

From a quick glance over their team and size, it doesn't look like they can support multiple projects of this size.  That means AmigaOS4 is basically sitting at some form of an impasse, while the Linux and AOS4 versions of Gorky 17 are developed, correct?

BZZZZZZT! Wrong! How do you think that Hyperion have been able to fund the OS4 project?  They have to take on other projects at the same time (part of the reason it's taken longer than expected), Hyperion have worked on other projects during the last 2 years or so.

Your leap of logic just doesn't go.

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Ilwrath wrote:
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BZZZZZZT! Wrong! How do you think that Hyperion have been able to fund the OS4 project? They have to take on other projects at the same time (part of the reason it's taken longer than expected), Hyperion have worked on other projects during the last 2 years or so.

Perhaps I'm misjudging their size... But what projects HAS Hyperion taken on on the side, recently (post 2001)?  It looks like the most active part of their website is the Amiga products, and those can't be generating much income.  

Since they show no clear signs of income, I assumed that at this stage Hyperion consists mainly of three or four individuals who may or may not be accepting delayed payments.  Low income, but also low expenditures.  Signs of a small (but efficient) team.

Well I'm not sure the full extent of their other work, but I do know they've done work on Mac games, and contract work for Mai

Here's the problem, you're ASSUMING.  A wise man once told me that "Assumption is the mother of all f*ck-ups"

There's a whole heap of things I could assume about many people and organisations in the Amiga market, it doesn't actually back up anything.

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magnetic wrote:
Oh boy
 Here we go again..

MagicSN - you work for Hyperion right? I KNOW you have data on how many A1s sold.. and you KNOW deep in your heart its not where near as many as Pegs out there.

Magnetic - You're a pegasos dealer right? So you'd KNOW deep in your heart that you'd gain from posting stuff like this.

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@Bloodline

But it's okay for magnetic, both a pegasos dealer and someone closely related to Genesi to stir things up?