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Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« on: November 21, 2011, 05:47:30 PM »
I tried a guide to setup SFS on a real hard drive using winuae.

It worked in winuae but when i plugged it into my real Amiga it would only see the first partition (the bootable one). Also HD toolbox does not always load on the real Amiga.

Where have i gone wrong? I used a guide on Amiga Wiki or something like that to set it up.
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 06:38:07 PM »
Quote from: mfilos;668597
How big is your second partition?

If you're getting outside the 4GB system won't be recognising the size with it's default scsi.device.
So you either need to have partitions <= 4GB or load an upgraded scsi.device via loadmodule command or via Blizkick (Blizzard accelerators), RemApollo (Apollo accelerators) or via a flash solution like Deneb's flash or kickflash depending on our Amiga.

Loadmodule is the easiest solution and works just fine.


The 2nd partition is about 4031MB. That is larger than 4GB right?

But one of the other partitions (I think the 3rd or 4th) is @ about 1.5GB and that is not seen either.

Maybe because of the 2nd partition being larger than 4GB?
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 06:38:46 PM »
What is this loadmodule and how can i use it?
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 06:22:06 AM »
Ok so what i noticed is this. The first partition boots and works fine in SFS. The other partitions are not seen in workbench. BUT, if i set them as FFS instead of SFS they work and are seen.

I dont get it because i gave each partition the same Mask etc.. settings as the first (Which boots and works fine in SFS)
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 11:06:46 AM »
Quote from: Thomas;668666
Here are instructions how to install the needed software for big harddrives in WinUAE:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=446135&postcount=27


I dont have Amigaforever.

I tried with Winuae but when i try to load loadmodule/loadmodule scsi.device it says object is not of required type.
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 01:53:49 PM »
Any ideas?
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 07:13:00 PM »
Quote from: Thomas;668693
More information needed. Which file is located where? What's your current directory when you enter the command?

Did you inadvertently enter loadmodule before you entered loadmodule/loadmodule? If yes, enter cd / to move back to the higher directory.


I unpacked the files (using windows) in the work folder and mounted it as the second hard drive in winuae.

Then in shell i went to work: and then ran loadmodule/loadmodule scsi.device
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2011, 06:45:40 AM »
I need to sort this out soon coz i'm running out of space with the 170MB noisy HD that came factory installed.
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 11:44:49 AM »
Thanks Thomas. Sorry for not describing the problem enough. I'll have another attempt at this when i get home.

I did unpack the files you said in your guide to download using WinRAR on the PC so maybe like you said the integrity might have become damaged although i never had problems before unpacking using the PC as PC is much much faster.

Will try again and post the results.

Cheers and honestly i really do appreciate your help :)
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 05:21:29 PM »
Ok tried again. I managed to have the boot disk (HD0) and HD1 and HD2 as SFS. The rest would not be seen on WB so i set them as FFS and they work.

All good so far. Just one slight problem.

Tried copying some WhdLoad ready games to the 3rd SFS partition but when i click them rather then loading they get stuck on the WhdLoad screen where it says the credits of the WHDinstaller etc..     Tried copying games to an FFS partition and they work fine.

The 3rd SFS partition in questions is less than 1.5GB

Edit: Instead of a Format i gave it a Quick Format as the initial format. Is that bad? I am now trying a full format.
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 05:57:24 PM »
SFS is all a mess i think... Even now stuff in the system partion is saying HD0 has a blockid error in block xxxxx expected blockid 0x424e4443, but the block says it is blockid 0x6a727778,
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 06:28:17 PM »
I gave up... Deleted all the partitions and created them again with FFS
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
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A600HD - 2MB Chip / 8MB Fast / 2GB CF HD / Kick 3.1
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Re: Setting up SFS on a real hd with winuae??
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2011, 08:01:18 AM »
Quote from: Piru;668886
I warned you about this. FFS only appears to work but happily trashes innocent data.


Thanks for the help. Same to Thomas.

I just couldnt get it, so i am now using FFS without problems. Shame is that i can only get 4GB (out of a 20GB hard drive) but 4GB is more than enough i guess.
A1200HD- Blizzard 1230IV / 64Mb / Kick 3.1 / OS 3.9 / 20GB HD
A4000 040 @33Mhz -Kick 3.1 / 16MB
A2000 Rev4.4 - \'030 @25Mhz / 8MB / Kick 3.1 / ClassicWB
CD32 -     Stock (W/ 2 CD32 Controllers]
A500 Plus - 68000 / 2MB Chip / 2Mb Fast / 2.04/1.3 / A590 / A570
A600HD - 2MB Chip / 8MB Fast / 2GB CF HD / Kick 3.1
CDTV

PowerMac G4 1Ghz (MorphOS / Leopard)

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