Nasty problem in OS3.9

[dougal]

For some reason all of a sudden OS3.9 is giving me major hassle.

Once the OS screen came up it was saying "Attempting to load program WBCLOCK" and would freeze

So i rebooted with no startup sequence and deleted WBCLOCK from WBSTARTUP

Then next reboot it said "Attempting to load program Amiboing" and freeze again

So i deleted Amiboing from WBStartup

Now its saying "Attempting to load program C:Mount" and freezing again

WTF???

How can i fix this?

[dougal]

The problem seems to be when OS 3.9 tries to launch stuff in WBSTARTUP as just before it freezes it does show OS3.9 desktop

[dougal]

What file system are you using on your hard drive?  

I've seen this lately with PFS2, it usually means the media my boot partition sits upon is starting the slide to oblivion.  My SCSI drives are rather old.  I've had to re-think the way I organize and protect data.  For your sake, I hope I'm wrong.

Do you have backups?

AFAIK the file system is SFS. I bought my A4000T from a friend of mine and i believe that he had formatted it as SFS. I never touched the formatting as if i remember right it already had a fresh install of OS3.9.

What i can say is that when the problem started (Attempting to load program WBCLOCK) i would reboot or else switch off and on again and the problem would go away and it would load up properly. It started this about a week ago. I thought the problem had to do with a failing Clock battery.

Yesterday when i tried rebooting or off/on again the problem remained and now my OS3.9 installation is what one can say totally unusable as it freezes as soon as the "Attempting to load......" thingy comes up.

Should i try renaming the WBSTARTUP folder to something else and see what happens or is there something else i can try?

I have another partition with Workbench 3.1 on the same hard drive. Should i try booting with that instead and use some tool to fix 3.9 ?

Any help would be appreciated.

[dougal]

UPDATE:

I booted with no startup-sequence and renamed the WBSTARTUP to WBSTART.

Rebooted and OS3.9 booted up properly with no crashes. Of course the Dock and other stuff from WBSTARTUP did not load up.

When i double clicked the dock that opened up fine, but anything else such as MagicMenu and other stuff from that folder are causing the Amiga to freeze.

I havent done any further testing or checkups as i didnt have enough time this morning.

[dougal]

You have not really described what you mean with "freeze", is it total hang, or is mouse and intuition alive?

I'd try to isolate the real problem first. Boot while pressing alt key to have loadwb skip wbstartup, and then check out the program in wbstartup, for example...
* do they start if you start them manually by double clicking them?
* do they have "Wait till finished" checked?
* are the protection bits sane?

Nothing works.. Without WBSTARTUP it boots into OS3.9 but if i try and run anything it just freezes. By freezing i mean the screen remains the same and i cannot move the mouse pointer and no error messages. Nothing. Even WHDLoad wont work. Some stuff works. SYSINFO worked for example. EASYADF loaded but wont quit and wont do anything but the Amiga is not crashed or frozen.

[dougal]

I booted into my Workbench 3.1 partition and it seems to be working perfectly into 3.1 but OS 3.9 is with the problems mentioned above :S

This is really frustrating me now

[dougal]

Even MagicMenu works fine in 3.1 but is freezing my 3.9 (along with the other programs that are also freezing it). It used to work perfectly in 3.9

[dougal]

How can i fix? I am sure it software

[dougal]

PROBLEM SEEMS SOLVED.

Dont know how, but i inserted the OS3.9 install CD and selected a new install.

At 40% it stopped but the Amiga did not crash or freeze.

I rebooted with the WBSTARTUP folder as it is supposed to be and everything worked perfectly.

Maybe it fixed some files? I dont know, but i am Happy now

[dougal]

Its doing it again!!!!!!!  

I need help fast here before i get an axe and smash this stupid A4000t to pieces.

Pleaaaasssseee

[dougal]

Horribly annoying

[dougal]

What kind of help do you want?

The Amiga developed a problem where every now and then it would FREEZE when it starts loading items from WBStartup. Usually a reset would solve it.

But then it started doing it ALL the time.

I managed to boot holding the ALT key (disabiling WBSTARTUP), but nothing would run as the Amiga would freeze.

So i inserted the OS3.9 disc and started an installation over the old one and it stopped at 40%.

I rebooted and the Amiga worked 100% fine for a day or so and then started doing that problem, but not all the time and a reset would usually help.

Now its doing it ALL the time again.

The OS3.1 partition on the same hard drive is fine.

[dougal]

If your drive and partitions are "big", be sure you use a scsi.device and filesystem that are capable of handling them right.

The hard drive is a 1Gb so the partitions are not that big at all. It is a SCSI hard drive.

scsi.device is not present

[dougal]

Once in a while it does actually boot up properly. It just did now.

But i tried loading something (SysSpeed from the OS3.9 partition) and it didnt load. no messages nothing. Then the mouse moves and all, but if i click on an icon or close button it shows the click but does nothing. same with right clock, i see the rightclick options but they do nothing.

Now i reset and tried loading a game in whdload and it loaded perfectly. Note games are on a different partition.

This is really messed up

[dougal]

When machine freezes, is the HD light constantly on?

Nope. There is no HD access and the light is off