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Re: Not a happy bunny!!
« on: August 02, 2012, 10:26:35 AM »
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Workbench 3.0/3.1 has no TCP/IP stack, browser, FTP client or anything that even remotely supports networking.

Workbench 3.9 added AWeb and TCP/IP stack but you need a CD-ROM drive to install it. Standard Amiga 1200 case has no room nor connectors for the drive.

To use PCMCIA network card you must download CNET driver from Aminet which you must somehow move to your Amiga. Luckily Amiga can read PC formatted disks but you are limited to 720kB DD disks. Not every user know how to use HD disk as DD or have friends with an old PC.

It is tricky. The hardware is so incompatible with current standards. Hardcore Amigans have Catweasels, parnets, USB extensions and what not... but beginners are struggling with this stuff.

Seems that people forget that getting files to your amiga to get started is easier then you think, lets say you got an A1200 with 2,5" HDD and no means to use the drive on your windows/linux machine or the know how to do it and you do not have an CF->PCMCIA adapter and your A1200 is stock, how do you do?

Easy, null-modem serial cable. Easy as pie and have been used for ages, build or buy a cable for scraps, plug in to a PC then your Amiga, and nowdays it's as easy as download and install the free version of Amiga explorer. Bam easy to use and you can even pick any ADF you got on your PC drag/drop and write to disk on Amiga (provided it got enough memory but that is no issue with the 1200 with DD floppies).

I have used a null-modem cable to copy over files even to my old Amiga 500 (with 512KB trapdoor expansion), that was how I made new WB disks when problem arised and I had no HDD on the Amiga.

This is a easy way people tend to forget and requires just a cheep cable and it's not even hard to build yourself and there is no problem to find the pinouts to make one.
Sure not the fastest way but it works. And if I do not remember wrong it's quite well explained on Amigaforever?
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Re: Not a happy bunny!!
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 04:46:17 PM »
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How do you get Amiga Explorer to your Amiga?

Worked like a charm last time i tried, here is a quote from AF about it:

"Once installed on the Windows side, Amiga Explorer can self-install to the Amiga over the serial cable without requiring any additional software, but the Amiga must be able to boot first (e.g. with a Workbench disk, at least version 1.2)"

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And of course serial and parallel ports have been obsolete around 5 years now. Luckily there are USB serial adapters, though.

I still have parallel ports on plenty of my computers, beside my most recent builds :O
If you don't have you might know someone that has a PC with one, or you can head to your  nearest electronics recycle facility and pick up an pentium 2, pentium 3 or even a pentium 4 socket 478 non HT machine since people toss em :O (the socket 478 P4s I understand since P3 kicks it's ass ;) )


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And again you have to buy Amiga Forever from a distant online shop... it is tricky if you have to order various pieces to get your Amiga to usable state.

But there is a free version of Amiga Explorer at http://www.amigaforever.com/ae/ for both x86 and x86-64 Windows.



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I (almost) never write MOS either :)

Thanks, that I like ;)
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