How is OS4 ?

[som99]

@Crumb

MorphOS blows.

That comment is as constructive as this comment. Surley you could go a bit deeper than using "Blows" as an statement of a OS? But what do I know...

[som99]

My comment was as constructive as the rest - that was my point. Every time OS4 is mentioned, some jackass just has to bring up MorphOS, and tada... yet another silly OS4 vs. MorphOS thread. For that MorphOS blows. If you want I can also list up techical reasons, but why bother.

I would actually like some technical reasons
But I do now understand your point.

Peace

[som99]

No, seriously. I'm sure some of the first machines were 400MHz. I could be wrong.

Yes there where 400MHz 440ep's So your right!

[som99]

Destroyed? It seemed like a honest discussion to me. It seems to me as if some wouldn't want that to happen, and try their best to drag the discussion down the the gutter.

So how is OS4? OS4 does have it's merits and problems. The best measuring stick happens to be... MorphOS. I only see it as natural that such threads as this would include discussion about how OS4 compares to MorphOS.

I agree with Piru, comparing OS4 with MorphOS is a good way to get both OSes pros and cons. Having a civilized discussion abouth both OSes is good and shows even more about both systems.

I would not say anyone destroyed this thread, I got alot of good reading out of it and anyone interested in either AmigaOS 4.x and MorphOS got diffrent peoples views on them. I found it quite a good read about classic PPC Amiga and both OSes. So ill say thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Over and out.

[som99]

Probably even better compare each against OS3.9, since that's what they are supposed to be upgrades from.

Well I do not fully agree since you cant run OS3.9 nativly on either AmigaOS 4.x and MorphOS "modern" hardware.
Then it would not realy be fair, since the original poster dident ask about Classic Amigas with PPC.
But yes some reflections with OS3.9 would be nice to see.

[som99]

@Tone007  


@Som99
Instead I think it's Lazy. look at my reply (the one to runequester I mean) I actually take the time to describe my OS4 experience to him, comparisons are lazy shortcuts.
Moreover to make unbiased comparisons of that kind you would need an impartial multi-platform developer (such as DiscreetFX for example) not OS4 and MOS users.
What the latter should do is give detailed descriptions with screenshots if possible in order to help the asking person without any Bias.

@Piru
Maybe he didn't like that thread and wanted to just hear about OS4, ok take out that maybe:

From runequester post:

Well I agree your reply with your OS4 experiance was nice, tho comparisons would atleast be intresting for me and a good way to see both OSes weaknesses and strenghts.

Tho I do not agree that comparisons are lazy, but quite constructive.

[som99]

If you take that position, then it's almost as irrelevant to compare MOS and OS4 then, given that the only non-classic system that will run both is the Peg 2 and they aren't new or that easy to find if you are a new user. In that case, you are probably going to be looking at a Sam to run OS4 or a Mac to run MOS. MOS doesn't run on the SAM and OS4 doesn't run on the Mac (well, you can just about boot it if you know what you are doing).

Well I ment more powerfull hardware then the classic Amigas, not any specific hardware in mind, but feels a bit unfair to compare OS9.3 on a PPC Amiga with a faster OS on much faster hardware.

No, he asked about OS4, period. He didn't ask about alternatives and he didn't ask about hardware either (he opened a separate thread for that).

Then my bad, but still its a good way to compare 2 OSes with eachother as I said before.

I think it's the most logical comparison to make. You need to know what benefits your next OS (plus whatever hardware it needs to run) is going to give you over your existing one.

Thats true, but still comparison between MorphOS and OS4 is important to, as I have written in previous posts.

[som99]

@som99
I also agree that comparisons "CAN" be constructive but as you probably know by now, they often and up not being so (hence the need for impartial people, but where do we find such people in Amiga land? :lol:).

Well I for one got some good information about both OSes in this thread, since im soon a MorphOS user and later on in the future will give OS4 a try I felt some of the information here was constructive

[som99]

You mean compare OS3.9 on a classic Amiga (which may or may not have a PPC) with OS4/MOS on more powerful hardware, surely?

One of the main factors in getting MOS or OS4 in the first place is that it runs on faster hardware and allows your old applications (at least the system friendly ones) to take advantage of that performance increase.

I don't think anybody ever bought either solely because they thought the icons looked better than they do in 3.9 or that solid window dragging is smoother. And if they did, well frankly, they're a bit silly.

Now you got me wrong again. There is so much more new stuff you can do with the faster hardware and OS4 and MorphOS and that is something worth pointing out, then ofc we should not forget compability with the older OSes.
But im not talking about the apperance of any of the OSes, thats worth nothing for me in overall but of course its nice to look at, but not a selling point for me atleast.

[som99]

You should always judge a system on it's own merits. There are cheerleaders in pretty much every OS camp. If you paid any attention to any of them, you'd end up not wanting to use any of them.

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Well spoken!