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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« on: January 20, 2012, 11:24:01 PM »
Having it means that you probably have the default installation modules inside your Deneb.
These are the Deneb devices, poseidon.library, mass storage device, and some other classes along with the INTRO module as Matt_H said.

Just fire up Luciferin, copy the flash contents to a folder for backup purposes and save/flash either your modules of choice or even an empty flash (if you don't want any extra module inside) and you're gonna be set :)

Intro is cool but only for a couple of times I guess :P
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 09:29:32 PM »
The message isn't important so no worries :)
Ok... some clarification then.

Left side is your local hard drive. From here you can change to the path you want to either use to download files from Deneb's flash or choose files (modules) to load into Deneb's Flash
Right side is Deneb.
- First tab Local exists for you to drag & drop files (modules) from left side in order to put it into Deneb's Flash. When you're ready to flash Deneb... just press the button Upload.
- Second tab FlashRom is the Flash as it is now (you will see the contents of what exists in there). You can't do alter anything in that tab but to check what you got and download it to the Left side=Local hard drive.
- Third tab Booloader has general options about how Deneb will react upon booting. No need to change anything there.
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 10:51:29 PM »
Quote from: Michele31415;676870
So what I need to do is Download everything I want to keep from the right side to the left side, then drag & drop them from there into the Local pane and then click Upload?  Is that right?  (Just want to be 100% sure)
You're absolutely correct :)

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Is Deneb USB designed with a generic "usb.library" that calls a hardware specific "deneb.library" ?
(btw, can one boot a USB drive from Deneb?)
Deneb is a device, and it has 3 software devices that support it (dma, pio, zii). Apart from the poseidon.library there are the USB classes like HID, mass storage, etc.
Putting deneb device, poseidon.library, massstorage.device and your current psdstackloader configuration file, and you can boot just fine from Deneb via USB :)
It works pretty fast as well :)

I managed to boot even from Subway USB in an A600/030 but it was done only for testing/fun purposes. You can check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gtDZUm46ks
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 09:03:14 PM »
First of all you haven't bricked your Deneb by just using Luciferin :)
Second, you don't need to pull out Deneb if it doesn't boot. Putting the Jumper into ROM position, disables Deneb's flash so it won't interfere in the boot process.

Second, I'd suggest you to remove everything from Deneb's flash and boot your system.
Poseidon doesn't need to be in Flash except you require USB things before booting Workbench (like USB mouse, booting from USB sticks etc). If you don't need such stuff, there's no need to have Poseidon.library, classes and Deneb devices into the Flash.

So... If your system works just fine without anything... then install Poseidon, configure it and if it works, insert into Deneb's flash the correct device that works on your system, and the PsdStackLoader that resides on your Env-Archive folder. Don't forget that every change you make on the USB configuration needs a fresh PsdStackLoader!
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 09:06:58 PM »
Have you tried inserting Deneb in another zorro slot (for example the first empty one you got)?
Also, what version of Poseidon are you installing? Version 3 of Poseidon in your message is old stuff. You should get the newer version from Chris Hodges website here: http://www.platon42.de/index2.html
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 09:15:54 AM »
This is no mess at all. Luciferin is easy stuff, it just needs a bit of attention.

Btw I dont' recall Deneb coming with Poseidon 3.x
I got one of the first Denebs in first run and it came with Poseidon 4.0 burned into it's unwritable flash memory so you could install it easily with it! No floppy disks required to get it up and running!
When you get Deneb the jumper is set to RES position in which the Unwritable flash is enabled so you can install Poseidon. After you install you power off Amiga, and put the jumper in SPR position.
It's all written in the manual.
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 08:28:39 PM »
Just select the denebpiousb.device and click delete to remove it permanently.
Just leave the denebz2usb.device and hit online. If it turns up Green then you're ok and you only need to press SAVE and reboot :)
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 09:26:15 PM »
No it doesn't delete it. Poseidon doesn't have to do anything with the Flash.
I just told you to delete one of the 2 entries in Poseidon's configudation.
You ought to have only one entry per device. Alas since you only have one Deneb and it operates in Z2 mode, you only need the Z2 Deneb device and delete any other.
Seeing your USB stick under WB is a good sign :)

Also check what you have in your Flash via Luciferin. My advice would be to save a Flash with nothing on for starters to be sure you don't need to press Left Mouse Button on boot to disable what exists in there every time.
Empty it all, and if everything works fine, start filling the Flash with any module you feel best :)
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 11:03:41 PM »
As Darrin said... No :)
Deneb's flash is an awesome feature that works awesomely well and easy. Just use what it feels best for you. Stuffing it with things you don't know it's not good.

The fact that you have your USB showing upon boot is because of User-Startup's "PsdStackLoader" running upon boot :)
That initializes the stack based on your saved configuration alas all is working.

I'm glad you sort it out in the end. It's not so difficult, it's just need some understanding on how the device works and you're set.

Cheers

P.S. Matt_H got me this time :)
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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 10:31:32 AM »
Seeing the intro two times means that you indeed you have OS3.9 (as I can see from your signature as well).
OS3.9 Reboots your machine when the SetPatch runs in Startup-Sequence (in order to load the updated modules of the file "AmigaOS ROM Update" that resides in DEVS).

Since Deneb loads by default the flash in every reboot, that's why you saw the Intro 2 times in every power on :)
You can disable the Intro Logo ofc by clicking the left mouse button but after some time... even that... gets irritating lol

I'd suggest at a point to put Kickstart 3.9 Modules inside Deneb to have a rebootless system that boost faster :)
I can help you with that if you can't make it on your own.

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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 08:15:18 AM »
Ok based on Matt_H's list I'm making the following comments for you to understand better :)

romupdate.idtag --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
exec.library--> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
denebpiousb.device  --> Since you use an A2000, you need instead the denebz2usb.device, but ONLY if you want USB support on boot
massstorage.class  --> Needed only if you need to boot from USB on boot
serialcp210x.class  --> Not needed
asixeth.class  --> Not needed
pegasus.class  --> Not needed
stir4200.class  --> Not needed
palmpda.class  --> Not needed
bluetooth.class  --> Not needed
serialpl2303.class  --> Not needed
printer.class  --> Not needed
cdcacm.class  --> Not needed
dm9601eth.class  --> Not needed
ethwrap.class  --> Not needed
rawwrap.class  --> Not needed
moschipeth.class  --> Not needed
poseidon.library --> Needed only if you want USB support on boot (storage, hid, etc)
rtl8150eth.class  --> Not needed
hub.class  --> Needed only if you want USB support on boot
input.device  --> Needed only if you want USB support on boot (keyboard/mouse)
hid.class  --> Needed only if you want USB support on boot (keyboard/mouse)
egalaxtouch.class  --> Not needed
camdusbmidi.class  --> Not needed
simplemidi.class  --> Not needed
dfu.class  --> Not needed
bootmouse.class  --> Needed only if you want USB support on boot (keyboard/mouse)
bootkeyboard.class  --> Needed only if you want USB support on boot (keyboard/mouse)
PsdStackLoader --> Needed if you want USB support and MUST be your saved config that works!
NCR scsi.device  --> Not needed since you have an A2000
scsi.device  --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
console.device  --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
ptp.class  --> Not needed
bootmenu  --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
FastFileSystem  --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
usbaudio.class  --> Not needed
usbvideo.class  --> Not needed
shell  --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update
ram-handler  --> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update

Also you need as well:
Filesystem.resource  
--> Needed. Exists on OS3.9 Update

Optionaly you can put modules like:
NoClick  --> Disables the mouse click noise
BBlank  --> Disables the grey border putting a blank one (on native modes)

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Re: How to stop Deneb splash screen
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 07:26:53 PM »
@Darrin
Aye mate. Since all modules are loaded from Flash, there is no need to get loaded again from the file "AmigaOS ROM Update" that resides in DEVS folder (via SetPatch).
Then you'd only need to do some alterations...

- First, edit your Startup-Sequence (make a backup copy just to be sure) and you need to replace the line of SetPatch with the following:
Code: [Select]
C:SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET- Also (for safety reasons) you can rename the file "AmigaOS ROM Update" under DEVS to something else (for example: "AmigaOS ROM Update.bak").
- You're set :)
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