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Re: Haynie's Garage Sale
« on: April 14, 2011, 02:06:43 PM »
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Yup. The only PPCs you'll ever be able to get are optimized for network switches, the sort of stuff that Motorola puts out.

Now, if someone made a complete PPC "Amiga" system, complete with AmigaOS 4.x or whatever, and sold it for $300-$400, I don't think anyone could complain too much that it doesn't meet the performance specs of a $200 x86-based Netbook (which it won't). And it doesn't really have to for hacking fun. Once you get Windows out of there, things get fast. I recently bought an Android tablet... really quick for a system with a dual core 1GHz ARM Cortex A9. But netbooks with twice the performance drag under Windows.

The one exception is the traditional Amiga pro-market stuff: graphics and video. You need all the CPU cycles you can get for that. My main machine at home is a six core AMD 1090T running at 3.2GHz. I ran an HD video render last night, something like six hours on that machine. That's probably over a week on a typical netbook, could run into many weeks for the typical embedded networking PPC chip.


Recent Windows desktop video editors includes GpGPU acceleration.
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Re: Haynie's Garage Sale
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2011, 02:26:54 PM »
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Yup. The only PPCs you'll ever be able to get are optimized for network switches, the sort of stuff that Motorola puts out.

Now, if someone made a complete PPC "Amiga" system, complete with AmigaOS 4.x or whatever, and sold it for $300-$400, I don't think anyone could complain too much that it doesn't meet the performance specs of a $200 x86-based Netbook (which it won't). And it doesn't really have to for hacking fun. Once you get Windows out of there, things get fast. I recently bought an Android tablet... really quick for a system with a dual core 1GHz ARM Cortex A9. But netbooks with twice the performance drag under Windows.


ARM Cortex A9 is an out-of-order dual instuction issue CPU while Intel Atom is an in-order dual instuction issue.

Against Intel Atom, AMD "Bobcat" is an out-of-order dual instuction issue CPU.

PS; I have AMD C-50 APU (dual core "bobcat" CPU 1Ghz + Radeon HD 6250M iGPU) ACER Iconia W500 tablet PC/netbook hybrid. Windows 7 runs well on this tablet/netbook.
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Re: Haynie's Garage Sale
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 03:01:18 AM »
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Have any links for comparisons between C-50 and D525?


What type of comparisons?

You want AMD C-50(Bobcat) @ 1.0Ghz (9 watts) vs Intel Atom D525 (Pineview) @ 1.8Ghz (13 watts)?
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You want AMD Radeon HD 6250M vs Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3150?

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Anyway, Cyberlink PowerDirector 9 has ATI Stream and UVD3 video decoder support.
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Re: Haynie's Garage Sale
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 03:34:23 AM »
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Absolutely! While the AMD processor is no more powerful than the Intel processor (they are about on par), AMD's APUs have much better graphics than the chipsets currently offered for Atom.

And AMD processors now draw LESS power than Intel.

I'm all for any non-Intel product.

Let's all go ARM, AMD, or VIA!

Well, Intel has 17 watt Intel Core i5-2537M @1.4 GHz, but it's $250.

AMD's Radeon HD 6250M accelerates non-gaming workloads e.g. IE9 and FireFox 4.

I wasn't impress with my ASUS Eee PC T101MT Tablet PC's "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3150".
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Re: Haynie's Garage Sale
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 05:34:02 AM »
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That's the one I would love to see.

Simply amazing the tech jump from projects of C='s final days to what is now available for low end computing.  One can only ponder what we would have now had C= survive and competed against that upstart company, nVidia.


NVIDIA's co-founder Curtis Priem was a designer for IBM Professional Graphics Controller(PGC) and SUN GX graphics chip (1986-1993). NV1 was released sometime in ~1995.

NVIDIA was not the driving force for pre-1995 PC graphics. Also, Intel i860/i960 VLIW-RISC 3D chip was used in SGI machines.

In 1984, PGC has 640×480 with 256 colors and a refresh rate of 60 Hertz.

ATI Mach 8 was released sometime in 1991.
ATI Mach 32 was released sometime in 1992.
ATI Mach 64 was released sometime in 1994.
ATI Rage 3D was released sometime in 1995.

Can C= AGA compete against ATI Mach 32?

You then have S3 Graphics ...
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